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Army dismisses gay soldier 'outed' by e-mail
AP ^ | 7/27/6 | DUNCAN MANSFIELD

Posted on 07/27/2006 7:39:00 AM PDT by SmithL

JOHNSON CITY, Tenn. (AP) - A decorated sergeant and Arabic language specialist was dismissed from the U.S. Army under the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy, though he says he never admitted being gay and his accuser was never identified.

Bleu Copas, 30, told The Associated Press he is gay, but said he was "outed" by a stream of anonymous e-mails to his superiors in the 82nd Airborne Division at Fort Bragg, N.C.

"I knew the policy going in," Copas said in an interview on the campus of East Tennessee State University, where he is pursuing a master's degree in counseling and working as a student adviser. "I knew it was going to be difficult."

An eight-month Army investigation culminated in Copas' honorable discharge on Jan. 30 _ less than four years after he enlisted, he said, out of a post-Sept. 11 sense of duty to his country.

Copas now carries the discharge papers, which mention his awards and citations, so he can document his military service for prospective employers. But the papers also give the reason for his dismissal.

He plans to appeal to the Army Board for Correction of Military Records.

The "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy, established in 1993, prohibits the military from inquiring about the sex lives of service members, but requires discharges of those who openly acknowledge being gay.

The policy is becoming "a very effective weapon of vengeance in the armed forces" said Steve Ralls, a spokesman for the Servicemembers Legal Defense Network, a Washington-based watchdog organization that counseled Copas and is working to repeal "Don't Ask, Don't Tell."

Copas said he was never open about his sexuality in the military and suspects his accuser was someone he mistakenly befriended and apparently slighted.

More than 11,000 service members have been dismissed under the policy, including 726 last year _ an 11 percent jump from 2004 and the first increase since 2001.

That's less than a half-percent of the more than 2 million soldiers, sailors and Marines dismissed for all reasons since 1993, according to the General Accountability Office.

But the GAO also noted that nearly 800 dismissed gay or lesbian service members had critical abilities, including 300 with important language skills. Fifty-five were proficient in Arabic, including Copas, a graduate of the Defense Language Institute in California.

Discharging and replacing them has cost the Pentagon nearly $369 million, according to the Center for the Study of Sexual Minorities in the Military at the University of California, Santa Barbara.

Lt. Col. James Zellmer, Copas' commanding officer in the 313th military intelligence battalion, told the AP that "the evidence clearly indicated that Sgt. Copas had engaged in homosexual acts."

While investigators were never able to determine who the accuser was, "in the end, the nature and the volume of the evidence and Sgt. Copas's own sworn statement led me to discharge him," Zellmer said.

Military investigators wrote that Copas "engaged in at least three homosexual relationships, and is dealing with at least two jealous lovers, either of whom could be the anonymous source providing this information."

Shortly after Copas was appointed to the 82nd Airborne's highly visible All-American Chorus last May, the first e-mail came to the chorus director.

"The director brought everyone into the hallway and told us about this e-mail they had just received and blatantly asked, 'Which one of you are gay?'" Copas said.

Copas later complained to the director and his platoon sergeant, saying the questions violated "Don't Ask, Don't Tell."

"They said they would watch it in the future," Copas said. "And they said, even specifically then, 'Well, you are not gay are you?' And I said, 'no.'"

The accuser, who signed his e-mails "John Smith" or "ftbraggman," pressed Copas' superiors to take action against him or "I will inform your entire battalion of the information that I gave you."

On Dec. 2, investigators formally interviewed Copas and asked if he understood the military's policy on homosexuals, if he had any close acquaintances who were gay, and if he was involved in community theater. He answered affirmatively.

But Copas declined to answer when they asked, "Have you ever engaged in homosexual activity or conduct?" He refused to answer 19 of 47 questions before he asked for a lawyer and the interrogation stopped.

Copas said he accepted the honorable discharge to end the ordeal, to avoid lying about his sexuality and risking a perjury charge, and to keep friends from being targeted.

"It is unfair. It is unjust," he said. "Even with the policy we have, it should never have happened."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: army; dontaskdonttell; homosexualagenda; military
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To: Red Badger
If they, Congress, changes the UCMJ, then that takes away the blackmail problem. .........

They, Congress, haven't done so (and for good reason in my estimate). Therefore, you speculation is in the same category of "if frogs had wings...."
61 posted on 07/27/2006 10:03:41 AM PDT by Lucky Dog
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To: SmithL

If he wants to serve, who cares as if he's gay. In the service, he does have to be discreet about it and will catch sh-- from some people, but that's life. I'm glad he got the honorable.


62 posted on 07/27/2006 10:04:12 AM PDT by jjm2111 (http://www.purveryors-of-truth.blogspot.com)
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To: CSM
Yes because I know they are not going to try anything in there. Most gays who join the military are doing it cause just like everyone else they want to defend and serve their country. They are not going to be in the shower coming on to everyone in there. Majority of military shows are individual stalls.
63 posted on 07/27/2006 10:05:30 AM PDT by FloridianBushFan (I support National Security. I SUPPORT HR4437 . Katherine Harris for Senate)
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To: TheSuaveOne
I'm glad to see you approve of weakening our military...la

A non-argument. Another qualified soldier would have taken his place at DLI if the SGT had been honest, and did not enlist in the first place. The problem is the goofy policy. It is idiotic to expect zero sexual activity over the course of an enlistment, let alone a career.

64 posted on 07/27/2006 10:08:23 AM PDT by Jacquerie (Democrats soil institutions.)
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To: Lucky Dog

It doesn't make sense. If someone is patriotic and brave enough to want to defend their country, then they should do so. Bullets, bombs, missiles and terrorists do not discriminate between straight and gay Americans............


65 posted on 07/27/2006 10:13:34 AM PDT by Red Badger (Is Castro dead yet?........)
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To: TheSuaveOne; Jacquerie
I'm glad to see you approve of weakening our military...la

Excuse me for interjecting a comment relative to your post to another poster, but I could not resist pointing out you failure in logic.

It is you who apparently in favor of weakening our military. Good order and discipline are critical to the function an effective military. The UCMJ has been established specifically to promote that good order and discipline. Consequently, those who are caught willfully violating it along with those who support their unlawful actions are the ones “weakening” our military.
66 posted on 07/27/2006 10:14:25 AM PDT by Lucky Dog
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To: Joan Kerrey
That little fantasy scenario makes about as much sense as the following scenario.

A decorated sergeant and Arabic language specialist was absent from duty that day due to being on sick call and getting treatment for his HIV+ status.

He is lawfully serving the U.S. Army under the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy, and has not told anyone he's gay - which is absolutely allowed.

The military is not allowed to kick him out for being HIV+ as long as he does not practice open homosexuality or state that he is a homosexual. HIV is not proof of homosexuality.

His commander is NOT allowed to ask him how he got the HIV if the question is related to homosexual activity.

There are active duty members who serve with HIV they came down with after entering service and the military is not allowed to discharge them on those grounds alone, as long as it does not progress to full blown AIDS. And then they get full medical care if they are discharged for AIDS.

However the military may reclassify them to another job and prohibit them from deploying to certain geographical regions or combat zones.

You have 10 intercepted documents written in Arabic.

One of the 10 documents tells where a nuke is located that will go off in 30 minutes. It takes 25 minutes to interpret each of the documents.

You have 10 interpreters for the 10 documents but one is gay.

The gay not being there that day because he is at sick call for his HIV+ related illness means at least one of the documents won't get interpreted in time to find the nuke and react.

Military: "we are bending over backwards to accommodate gays, but it is still never good enough for the militant gay agendists"

Open the floodgates to the Gay Left Wing Anti-War crowd - sure, makes sense to me.

67 posted on 07/27/2006 10:14:39 AM PDT by Retired Army Special Forces
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To: SmithL
...though he says he never admitted being gay...

Well, it would seem he admitted it to someone.
Someone with a computer, an email account and an axe to grind.

69 posted on 07/27/2006 10:18:00 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (I can't complain...but sometimes I still do.)
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To: Jacquerie
If this is true that gays can't handle it in the militaries and in close quarters then what about all the other militarys in the world who allow gays in the service openely including some of our allies Israel, Great Britain, Australia,Canada. Straights and gays seem to get along just fine and there are no problems.
70 posted on 07/27/2006 10:18:23 AM PDT by FloridianBushFan (I support National Security. I SUPPORT HR4437 . Katherine Harris for Senate)
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To: Retired Army Special Forces

They kick you out for HIV anyway, but this is a typical Times hit piece. "decoated" could mean the NDSM, the GWOTS, good conduct, and a AAM or two for tying his shoes right. Big deal. Also, the gov't can always hire the homos back as civilian contractors to translate documents.


71 posted on 07/27/2006 10:19:31 AM PDT by jjm2111 (http://www.purveryors-of-truth.blogspot.com)
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To: Red Badger
If someone is patriotic and brave enough to want to defend their country, then they should do so.

Perhaps you would like to explain why the services do not take convicted felons that are " patriotic and brave enough to want to defend their country." It couldn't have anything to do with good order and discipline, could it?

As I noted in an earlier post, the UCMJ has been established specifically to promote that good order and discipline. Consequently, those who are caught willfully violating it are disrupting "good order and discipline." Such disruptions are counterproductive to the military's reason for existence. Therefore, it (that to which you were referring) makes perfect sense.
72 posted on 07/27/2006 10:20:38 AM PDT by Lucky Dog
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To: FloridianBushFan

Wouldn't it be great if people who WANT America to be any other country in the world BUT America would just decide to move to the country that they really want to be in?

No, instead we have those who DEMAND that AMERICA change, because AMERICA is always wrong, of course.

Nice DNC talking point.


73 posted on 07/27/2006 10:21:14 AM PDT by Retired Army Special Forces
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To: Red Badger

All the same, this thread is gay.
74 posted on 07/27/2006 10:21:27 AM PDT by rabidralph (Underneath those white sheets are registered democrats.)
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To: FloridianBushFan

Fine. Get Congress to change the UCMJ.


75 posted on 07/27/2006 10:21:39 AM PDT by Jacquerie (Democrats soil institutions.)
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To: Lucky Dog

I am with you. Most of the bleeding hearts posting here have probably never served and have no idea.


76 posted on 07/27/2006 10:22:35 AM PDT by TheGunny (Re-read 1&2 Corinthians)
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To: Lucky Dog

Good order and discipline? Obviously you've never had to direct a Broadway Musical..........and neither have I.........


77 posted on 07/27/2006 10:25:53 AM PDT by Red Badger (Is Castro dead yet?........)
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To: TheGunny
I am with you. Most of the bleeding hearts posting here have probably never served and have no idea.

Your observation sure seems to accurate to me.
78 posted on 07/27/2006 10:26:12 AM PDT by Lucky Dog
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To: mnehrling

Bull$hit, "Red Herring". Im raising the red flag on this one. You know darn well what is meant is this section and why its there. Dont be an ass. The army will survive this "loss" dont looserterian any sleep over this, I wont. I bet Ive got a little more invested in this argument than you do.


79 posted on 07/27/2006 10:26:18 AM PDT by TheGunny (Re-read 1&2 Corinthians)
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To: FloridianBushFan
As I recall, the Hildebeast famously remarked that she "loathed" the military. She proved it. Let's not forget who came up with the irrational policy in the first place.
80 posted on 07/27/2006 10:26:46 AM PDT by Jacquerie (Democrats soil institutions.)
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