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To: Sir Francis Dashwood; Blackirish; All
I'm starting to see a trend here among Giuliani supporters. Whenever one of his flaming liberal positions is exposed, the natural response among his supporters has been to explain it away in one of two ways:

1. A flaming liberal position that he took as mayor of New York (openly violating the 1996 Federal law that prohibited cities like New York from establishing themselves as "sanctuaries" for illegal aliens, for example) was really necessary for him to get elected in New York City, and won't affect his performance as president because he'll change his position tomorrow (or next week, or next year, etc.).

2. A flaming liberal position he took as mayor of New York (supporting homosexual marriages and abortion through nine months of pregnancy, for example) will no longer be an issue because "these matters will be left to the states and cities" if he becomes president.

Point #1 is ludicrous because this is exactly what made it so clear that John Kerry was a fraud. I don't understand why anyone in the Republican Party would find that kind of sh!t endearing in a presidential candidate -- especially when it involves a situation in which the candidate in question really belongs in a Federal prison instead of at the top of a major party ticket.

Point #2 is ludicrous because it misses one very important point: Why would anyone expect Rudy Giuliani in a Federal capacity to "leave these issues to the states and cities" if the most radically liberal positions he took as mayor of New York involved issues that weren't even the responsibility of city government (i.e., abortion, illegal immigration, homosexual marriage, etc.)?!?!

157 posted on 07/08/2006 9:42:58 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: Alberta's Child

Or number 3: They pretend the POTUS election is FEAR FACTOR and parade aroudn Hillary, Dean, Etc..

(As if their 'liberal' PROGRESSIVE candidate were the ONLY one capable of beating HER)..

That is saying that 'ONLY' a liberal can beat a MEGA-liberal..

I SAY "balooney"!!

More than having a liberal GOPer beat a another liberal, we NEED a true Conservative; and not in the vain of (mind you I say this with all respect to our PRESIDENT, but NOT his politics), not, not in the vain of GWB! What we need, what we really need is another CONSERVATIVE ala Reagan, but since He departed us and left us since, We need his successor; I only see a few Candiates that would fill this bill #1 is Mike Pence, 2 Gingrich (though his personal problems might disqualify him) and 3) any lesser known grass-roots conservative: My point is that there are not many willing to Stand up and cry out for fiscal restraint-Godly morality, and Liberatarian policies like Mike Pence is..

I am not trying to blabber all over the place, but there are not many True-Real-Conservative Reagaites that are willing to stand for TRUTH in today's environment: Name one: Other..?


214 posted on 07/08/2006 10:06:35 AM PDT by JSDude1 (www.pence08.com)
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To: Alberta's Child

Don't forget romney supporters now, they tend to pull the same stuff. Although romney supporters tend to be more noticable on blogs such as redstate and the left leaning ones. I suspect alot of romney supporters are former rudy supporters who werent sure if he was running


273 posted on 07/08/2006 11:11:55 AM PDT by SDGOP
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