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I'd certainly prefer Rudy to Hillary. I might get flamed, but I'd prefer him over McCain too.
1 posted on 07/08/2006 8:12:31 AM PDT by mathprof
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I don't place any credibility in Novak whatsoever... consider the source...

71 posted on 07/08/2006 9:12:23 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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I certainly would prefer a conservative Pubbie nominee to Rudy, but certainly better Rudy than McInsane ...

It would concern me what kind of nominees a Prez Rudy would send to the Supreme Court, but at least they would be preferable to any nominees from a Demonkat Prez ...

92 posted on 07/08/2006 9:18:53 AM PDT by Babu ('guv-mint' - doesn't taste good, and isn't good for you either, except in very LIMITED quanitities.)
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The social issues all belong at the states rights level. Rudy should run on getting all the social issues voted on by each state.

Go Rudy!

97 posted on 07/08/2006 9:21:10 AM PDT by tkathy (The "can do" party can fix anything. The "do-nothing" party always makes things worse.)
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maybe Kerik could be his running mate.

100 posted on 07/08/2006 9:21:38 AM PDT by isom35
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I don't give a crap about anything but the 2nd Amend and the WOT. Everything else is bull to play to his lib lover quotient.

Rudy will adjust his 2nd Amend stance once he's escaped from the clutches of the NYC Union mobs on a national level and he hates the islamo crazies.

So far, he gets my vote.

McLame is a worthless rino backstabber who would rather sleep with hitlery then rock the boat.
104 posted on 07/08/2006 9:24:10 AM PDT by JoeSixPack1
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What is it with east coast liberal politicians who think they should run for the presidency? Please don't tell me that Rudy is a conservative. He's a RINO.

105 posted on 07/08/2006 9:24:21 AM PDT by toddlintown
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One thing I fear from Rudy as POTUS would be his pick(s) for The Supremes.

117 posted on 07/08/2006 9:28:58 AM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must)
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Go Rudy!
I would gladly vote for Rudy if it kept the scumbag Demorats out of the White House for another couple of Supreme Court nominations.

128 posted on 07/08/2006 9:32:37 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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Guns. Gays. Abortion.

Won't vote for Giuliani because you think you know his position of these issues and how he will act as President.

How is the current President acting on guns, gays and abortion today? Or yesterday? Or last week? Or next week? Or last month or next month?

Are any of them pressing issues?

Look this minute at the FreeRepublic sidebar. Look tomorrow
afternoon. Look again next week and next month.

The pressing issues - life and death, security- that are and will always be current and immediate, issues the President deals with every minute of every day do not relate to guns, gays and abortion.

When you vote for your Mayor are you concerned with local issues or his position on Iran?

Why do you vote for President based on issues that 95+% of the time are irrelevant to his job?

Imagine if you will that the President had nothing to say on the issues of gays, guns, or abortion- and when you think about it in reality he has very little to say- who would you vote for if the President's duties were strictly foreign affairs, including trade/economic issues, security and national emergencies.

That should be your candidate- because like it or not the Constitution makes that the job description.

149 posted on 07/08/2006 9:39:45 AM PDT by Sabramerican (Rice is Harriet Miers at State.)
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Rudy would not be my first choice but I would vote for him. My big concern is that some on the right would try to get a third party candidate to run which would insure a Hillary type person as the next president.
163 posted on 07/08/2006 9:44:14 AM PDT by Uncle Hal
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No, ha needs to run for senator against Hitlery. He's well-liked in the NY not so in the rest of the country.

178 posted on 07/08/2006 9:50:44 AM PDT by lilylangtree
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Allen / Giuliani Mark my words.

206 posted on 07/08/2006 10:02:56 AM PDT by bigjoesaddle ("Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats." -- P.J. O'Rourke)
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Party strategists calculate that if he actually runs, he must change on at least one of these issues.

Homosexual "rights", abortion, gun control, what other important issues is Giuliani on the wrong side of?

I would not vote for him because of his pro-abortion policy alone, and when his support for more gun control and more bogus "rights" for sodomites is added in to the socially liberal stewpot there is no way on God's green earth that I would ever vote for the man. I would never vote for a Democrat who is on the wrong side of those issues, so why would I vote for a man who supports the same liberal position as the Democrat just because he has an R after his name? AFAIK there is no law saying that I have to vote for any candidate.

230 posted on 07/08/2006 10:15:18 AM PDT by epow (Life is tough, it's even tougher if you're a DUmmy. moonbat living in Mom's basement.)
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I'd certainly prefer Rudy to Hillary. I might get flamed, but I'd prefer him over McCain too.

There are a few conditions..........

276 posted on 07/08/2006 11:21:07 AM PDT by WhiteGuy (It's about the People Who Count the Votes................. - Wally O'Dell)
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He's my guy.


286 posted on 07/08/2006 11:40:36 AM PDT by Jim Noble (And you know what I'm talkin' 'bout!)
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The Quotable Rudolph W. Giuliani

The New York State Liberal Party on Rudy Giuliani:

Some ask, How can the Liberal Party support a candidate who disagrees with the Liberal Party position on so many gut issues? But when the Liberal Party Policy Committee reviewed a list of key social issues of deep concern to progressive New Yorkers, we found that Rudy Giuliani agreed with the Liberal Party's stance on a majority of such issues. He agreed with the Liberal Party's views on affirmative action, gay rights, gun control, school prayer and tuition tax credits. As Mayor, Rudy Giuliani would uphold the Constitutional and legal rights to abortion.
--N.Y.S. Liberal Party Endorsement Statement of R. Giuliani for Mayor of New York City April 8, 1989

On the Republican Party:

Mr. Rockefeller represented "a tradition in the Republican Party I've worked hard to re-kindle - the Rockefeller, Javits, Lefkowitz tradition."

--Rudy Giuliani
New York Times
July 9, 1992

What kind of Republican? Is [Giuliani], for instance, a Reagan Republican? [Giuliani] pauses before answering: "I'm a Republican."

--Village Voice
January 24, 1989

On Attending 1996 Republican Convention:

Rudy even expressed his pleasure when he wasn't invited to the Republican National Convention in San Diego. "If I take three or four days off from city business, I want to do it for a substantive purpose. It didn't seem to me any substantive purpose could be served by going to the Republican convention."

--Rudy - An Investigative Biography of Rudolph Giuliani,
Page 459, Wayne Barrett

On Barry Goldwater:

He [Giuliani] described John Kennedy as "great and brilliant." Barry Goldwater was an "incompetent, confused and sometimes idiotic man."

--New York Daily News,
May 13, 1997

On President Bill Clinton:

Shortly before his last-minute endorsement of Bob Dole in the 1996 presidential election, [Giuliani] told the Post's Jack Newfield that "most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine." The Daily News quoted [Giuliani] as saying that March: "Whether you talk about President Clinton, Senator Dole.... The country would be in very good hands in the hands of any of that group."

Revealing at one point that he was "open" to the idea of endorsing Clinton, he explained: "When I ran for mayor both times, '89 and '93, I promised people that I would be, if not bipartisan, at least open to the possibility of supporting Democrats."

--Rudy - An Investigative Biography of Rudolph Giuliani,
Wayne Barrett, Page 459

Rudy Giuliani's October 1994 Endorsement of Democratic Governor Mario Cuomo:

"From my point of view as the mayor of New York City, the question that I have to ask is, ‘Who has the best chance in the next four years of successfully fighting for our interest? Who understands them, and who will make the best case for it?' Our future, our destiny is not a matter of chance. It's a matter of choice. My choice is Mario Cuomo."

--Rudy Giuliani: Emperor of the City
Andrew Kirtzman, Page 133

Reaction to Giuliani Endorsement of Cuomo:

"Once again, Rudolph Giuliani has demonstrated that liberalism is the foundation of his political philosophy. While Giuliani sold a bill of goods to trusting Republicans and Reagan Democrats that he had abandoned his roots as a McGovern Democrat, in his endorsement of Mario Cuomo, Mr. Liberal himself, he has shown his true colors. Giuliani's argument that Cuomo will be better for the city has a hollow ring to it. Perhaps Rudy wants a governor who will sign over a blank check to constantly bail out the city from its fiscal problems. Giuliani knows, as do all New Yorkers, that Cuomo's liberal policies have been an economic disaster for our city and state."

"But Rudy doesn't care. He has proven he will do anything to stop the election of a conservative Republican - but he won't succeed."

--Michael Long, Chairman N.Y.S. Conservative Party Press Statement,
October 25, 1994

"[Quite] frankly, you have to understand the fact that Rudy Giuliani was a McGovern Democrat, he was endorsed by the Liberal Party when he ran for Mayor. In his heart, he's a Democrat. He's paraded all over this country with Bill Clinton and, in fact, he's very comfortable with Mario Cuomo. But what Rudy Giuliani wants is to be bailed out in the city, in the mess he's in, and everybody understands very clearly in politics that they struck a deal, that Mario's going to continue to be the big spender, save Rudy the options of raising taxes by pouring money statewide into the City of New York and bailing it out. Quite frankly, I predict that he will join the Democratic Party."

--Interview with Michael Long, Chairman N.Y.S. Conservative Party,
CNN Crossfire, October 25, 1994

On Gay Domestic-Partner Rights:

National Republicans can lump it if they don't like his new domestic-partners bill, Mayor Giuliani said yesterday.

"I really haven't thought about what the impact is on Republican politics or national politics or Democratic politics," Giuliani said.

The bill he submitted to the City Council would extend the benefits city agencies must grant to gay and lesbian couples.

"I'm proud of it," Giuliani said of the bill. "I think it puts New York City ahead of other places in the country."

--New York Daily News, May 13, 1998

On Gay-Rights\Gay Rights Bill:

Giuliani favors extended civil-rights protection for gays and lesbians. Giuliani urged, by letter, to the New York Senate Majority Leader to pass the state's first ever gay rights bill, but did it privately.

"I am writing to convey my support for the current legislation to prohibit discrimination against gays and lesbians, and to urge you to allow the bill onto the floor of the Senate for prompt action."

"...It is my belief that we can penalize discrimination [against gays] without creating any potentially objectionable special privileges or preferential treatment."

--New York Post, June 5, 1993

Now Rudy Giuliani has jumped on the bandwagon, pressing the state Republican Party to release a gay-rights bill to the Senate floor for a vote. Marching in Sunday's [Gay Pride] parade, he has enlisted in the struggle to destroy the family. What a perfectly abominable springboard to seek high political office.

--Ray Kerrison
New York Post, June 30, 1993

Giuliani said homosexuality is "good and normal."

--Ray Kerrison
New York Post, July 7, 1989

On Gay Domestic Partnership:

"I have no objection to the concept of domestic partnership."

--Rudy Giuliani
Informed Sources
New York T.V. Show (PBS), May, 1992

On Abortion:

Leaflets distributed by the Giuliani campaign .... said that he opposes restrictions to Federal Medicaid financing for abortions and opposes the Hyde Amendment, which is intended to deny support for that financing.

--New York Times, June 18, 1993

"I'd give my daughter the money for it [an abortion]."

"I never called for the overturning of Roe vs. Wade."

--Rudy Giuliani
New York Newsday, September 1, 1989

As mayor, Rudy Giuliani will uphold a woman's right of choice to have an abortion. Giuliani will fund all city programs which provide abortions to insure that no woman is deprived of her right due to an inability to pay. He will oppose reductions in state funding. He will oppose making abortion illegal.

--New York Times, August 4, 1989

On Partial Birth Abortion:

Mr. Giuliani has said that New York State law should not be changed to outlaw the procedure.

-- New York Times, January 7, 1998

On School Choice:

"I wanted to know if he supports tuition tax credits and vouchers, which he doesn't."

--Sandra Feldman,
President of N.Y.C. Teacher's Union, 1993

On Taxes:

[Giuliani] says ruling out a tax increase is "political pandering."

--Newsday, August 31, 1989


295 posted on 07/08/2006 12:14:03 PM PDT by jla
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Rudy Giuliani: The Knight and ‘The Queen’     11/28/2001

According to The London Times, New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani gives kisses before he leaves every morning, but to neither his estranged wife, nor his girlfriend. Instead, says The Times, “Sir Rudy” gives a peck on the cheek to the two homosexual men he’s living with.

“We always get a little kiss, it’s cute,” says wealthy car dealer Howard Koeppel, with whom Giuliani has been sharing an apartment since June. When Giuliani was recently knighted, Koeppel tells The Times that he told “Sir Rudy” to call him “Queen Howard.” Koeppel (63) and his homosexual lover Mark Hsiao (41) have been comforting Giuliani, and trying to make him laugh, in the aftermath of the September 11 attacks.

On the way to a recent fundraising dinner for the pro-homosexual state lobby group, The Empire State Pride Agenda (ESPA), Koeppel ribbed Giuliani by saying that if the ESPA was able to raise $100,000 donation for the homosexual victims of the September 11 attacks, Giuliani should agree to appear on Showtime’s controversial Queer as Folk dressed in drag. Surprisingly, Giuliani agreed.

Marty Algaze of Gay Men’s Health Crisis once summed up Queer as Folk — a show that touts graphic sexual activity as one of its biggest draws — as one that would “shock a lot of people.” Showtime’s Queer as Folk was inspired by the original series in Britain, which featured a storyline in which a 29-year-old man has a sexual relationship with a 15-year-old boy.

The propensity to shock people is not new to Giuliani, who likes to dress in women’s clothes as a stage act, and even did so once at a Pride Agenda fund-raiser.

According to the Times, Giuliani has attended every “gay pride” parade in New York during his eight years as mayor. In 1992, during his first run for mayor, Giuliani took part in a homosexual “pride” parade that included a contingent of pedophile activists marching behind a banner for NAMBLA (North American Man/Boy Love Association).

Ken Ervin


Concerned Women for America
1015 Fifteenth St. N.W., Suite 1100
Washington, D.C. 20005
Phone: (202) 488-7000
Fax: (202) 488-0806

296 posted on 07/08/2006 12:15:15 PM PDT by jla
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Compilation of all Rudy Giuliani has actually done to fight terrorism or foil a terrorist attack:

The End.

297 posted on 07/08/2006 12:23:26 PM PDT by jla
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All of these poll numbers will change once Condi Rice throws her hat in the ring.

303 posted on 07/08/2006 12:41:33 PM PDT by no dems (
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>>Well-connected public figures report that they have been told recently by Rudolph Giuliani that, as of now, he intends to run for the Republican presidential nomination in 2008.<<

He's not my choice (pun intended) but its hard to blame him for running, given how he's polling - and he actually improves in the general over the primaries.

But he's pro abortion - I can't see him getting nominated without splitting the Republicans - maybe into two parties.

304 posted on 07/08/2006 12:43:43 PM PDT by gondramB (And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are going out.)
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