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Posted on 07/08/2006 8:12:30 AM PDT by mathprof
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Rudy is a true leader. He is liberal on things that don't matter a lot for a President, and conservative on things that do. Go Rudy!
The choice would be between Giuliani the liberal and McCain the
mavarick/moderate-conservative pompous ass with anger issues.
I get flamed sometimes but I'd definately vote for him.
"He'll play hell getting the Nomination, though."
Over who? McCain and Allen.
Rudy Giuliani is like Joe Lieberman, someone who is very good on national security issues but is extremely liberal on abortion (even opposing the partial-birth abortion ban!), taxes, guns, special rights for gays, and most other issues. Maybe I'm being a bit unfair when I say that Rudy is just like Lieberman, since Rudy is a lot tougher on crime than is Lieberman, but the reality is that Rudy's issue positions are a lot closer to those of a liberal Democrat such as Lieberman (who, belying Kossite whinings, actually had an ACU rating of 0 last year) than to those of a moderate-to-conservative Republican such as John McCain. I thought I would never support a third-party candidate for the presidency, but if GOP primary voters are stupid enough to nominate Rudy Giuliani in 2008, I will have to support (to my chagrin) the Constitution Party nominee or maybe an independent candidacy by a conservative who doesn't want the election to be a choice between two liberal extremists.
As I have said before, I think that Rudy's positions on national security and crime are so good that I would support him for Governor of NY or even for U.S. Senator (I almost never support a pro-abort for the Senate, since they tend to vote against conservative judicial nominees, but this being NY I'd make an exception), but there is no way that he can be the GOP presidential or VP nominee without destroying our party.
Fact is, on the issues Giuliani is the Joe Lieberman of the GOP. Think about it. Lieberman supports the Prez in the WOT and in Iraq. And Lieberman's association in the past with Bill Bennnet shows he has a moral conscience. The latter is more then can be said about RudyG.
Problem. I wouldn't vote for Joe Lieberman anymore then I'd vote for Rudy Giuliani. Conservatives don't vote for liberals. Period.
I'll take Hillary! over Rudy or McInsane. I figure that four years of her (IF she lasts that long) and this country won't vote for a crat for president for at least forty years.
If I was you, I'd do some serious research on Rudy the liberal before considering a leftwinger for POTUS.
When the choice is a Democrat or Rudy, who are you going to vote for?
Such as the Bill of Rights. You must be a transplanted Southerner.
LOL. Now that's a principled conservative for you.
If we get Hillary or another democrat then that person will appoint 2 or three Ginsberg clones to replace SCOUS retirements. Think of that.
This is exactly why he'll never win. The number of voters who actually think this so-called "war on terror" is the single biggest issue is pretty small -- and is comprised almost entirely of Republicans anyway.
The term applied to Lincoln was liberal. Its a contemporary political term. However, Lincoln was NO liberal. The closest thing to classic liberal in todays political environment is called a libertarian. Lincoln was no libertarian either. I'd say Lincoln was a classic Republican. Rudy Giuliani is a leftwing liberal.
Wrong, imo. The appointment of Constitutionalist judges in the federal courts is absolutely vital. To be true to his pro-abortion position, Rudy would be looking for those who can discern those emenations from those penumbras.
He'll play hell getting the Nomination, though."
Rudy can easily win the Presidentcy. Getting the nomination will be the hard part.
If Rudy would be so great for the war on terror, make him Secretary of State or Attorney General. I don't want him making domestic policy, or appointing two more David Souters to the Supreme Court.
George Allen or Mike Pence seem to have the strongest conservative credentials, though Pence is losing some traction with his immigration proposals.
Maybe there's a good conservative Republican governor out in the hinterlands who can rescue the GOP before it implodes.
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