Iraq is a full-scale military balls-up. Our best move now is to cut and run

The Guardian ^ | 6/23/06 | Geoffrey Wheatcroft

[Oshkalaboomboom]

If the US is going to wait until the time is right before withdrawing, we could be in for another hundred years war

'Quandary for the Democrats," said the newsreader early yesterday morning on the World Service (the BBC radio channel that covers foreign news). The quandary for those Democrats on Capitol Hill is whether they should continue to support the war in Iraq or insist on early withdrawal, in which case they know that the Republicans will accuse them of defeatism and cowardice, if not downright treason.

But this is in truth a quandary for all of us in those countries whose leaders embarked on the war. Life would be simpler if it were a choice between good and bad. In practice, as Raymond Aron used to say, politics is more often a choice between the preferable and the detestable, but even that doesn't describe the alternatives in Iraq. We are now faced with a choice between the detestable and the even worse.

Well before the Senate debate on Iraq began on Wednesday, the Democrats knew what they were in for. "When it gets tough, and when it gets difficult, they fall back on that party's old pattern of cutting and running," Karl Rove, President Bush's Mephistophelean and mephitic adviser, said recently, setting the tone for other Republicans.

There is something truly impressive about the appropriation of patriotism by President Bush and his colleagues, giving new meaning to Johnson's phrase about the last refuge of scoundrels. Here is an administration peopled almost entirely by "chickenhawks" or military virgins: men like Dick Cheney, who "had other priorities" when he should have been drafted, or the president himself, who served in the National Guard, notoriously a means of avoiding active service - in the days of Vietnam, that is;

[Oshkalaboomboom]

Another rant from our lefty friends on the other side of the pond.

[OpusatFR]

My Heavens! We are winning!

The left is hysterical.

[DB]

Most things worth accomplishing aren't easy.

Not quiting doesn't guarantee success but quiting does guarantee failure.

[Blueflag]

The good thingS about the Guardian are:

(1) They are openly Liberal and socialist
(2) They correctly label TV news anchors as "newsreaders"

I appreciate their 'honesty' even when they are dreadfully wrong.

Bt their logic we should have pulled out of Germany after WW2. Quagmire, indeed.

[Blueflag]

Bt = BY.

Need more coffee ...

[Berlin_Freeper]

"...we could be in for another hundred years war"

I don't think the retards on the planet who have had a hundred years war should be telling others what to do.

I think I will send them that in an email.

[Raycpa]

Here is an administration peopled almost entirely by "chickenhawks" or military virgins: men like Dick Cheney, who "had other priorities" when he should have been drafted, or the president himself, who served in the National Guard, notoriously a means of avoiding active service - in the days of Vietnam, that is;

I'd be willing to let the veterans decide on troop withdrawal, what say you?

[aShepard]

I hear rumblings in the ground.
Winston Churchill is rolling around!

[hershey]

The moon must be full.

[jshermn]

I have finally found something that equates Iraq to Viet Nam... Liberals will do and say anything to undermine our soldiers and their mission!!!

[DB]

Hmmm... I think "quiting" is supposed to have two T's... Oh well...

[bwteim]

"Bt their logic we should have pulled out of Germany after WW2. Quagmire, indeed."

Or during WW2 in '42.

Maybe the writer has an arrested case of Mad Cow.

[YOUGOTIT]

Darn! I thought Joe Stalin was dead but I guess he lives on in the hearts and minds of the anti-American anti-Human left-wing fascist in Europe.

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[Vaquero]

I have to say that we need to kick some serious ass. Our war is against terrorism. Right now, this morning I saw a 4 star general on TV saying that IED's that are killing our guys is coming from IRAN. He said that he was not sure but assumed that the Iranian govt. must have had some role in this.

So why are we waiting. Either we are in this or not. Its time to kick whatever sorry middle eastern ass that needs kicking...

...that combined with deportation of all non-citizen middle easteners is needed and its needed now.

the 'compassion' thing is BS flowery words that do nothing.

Flame away.

[Beckwith]

Karl Rove, President Bush's Mephistophelean and mephitic adviser,

Main Entry: me·phit·ic
Pronunciation: m&-'fi-tik
Function: adjective
: of, relating to, or resembling mephitis : foul-smelling

That's not very nice!

[Vaquero]

mephistophelean adj : showing the cunning or ingenuity or wickedness typical of a devil; "devilish schemes";

lets not take this past the slander that was intended

[metesky]

Geoffrey Wheatcroft, annoying Tory prat