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A positive take on the prez's speech from tPC's L.A. Morris

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1 posted on 05/16/2006 8:13:59 AM PDT by RepublicNewbie
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To: RepublicNewbie

You're a brave sole around here for posting a positive take.


2 posted on 05/16/2006 8:16:05 AM PDT by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: RepublicNewbie

the pubbies have a problem. their choices like those of the people on flight
93 are between certain death and near certain death.

If they allow the illegals citizenship--the illegal/legals will do what they did after 1986: vote democratic and tip the country to a democratic majority as they have done in california and that because after 1993 in California many mexicans began voting in california to preserve gov bennies--for which the dems excel. There won't be social security benefit for Americans of retirement age from the illegals/legals because they will suck up what ever they put into the economy--as they are now. They won't yield a net gain. ie they won't pay for anyone's social security.

Everyone but everyone who has ever been to any government building that dispenses anything from health care to drivers lisences can't help but notice that the place is swamped with foreigners. Basically the welfare state system set up in the 1960's is being totally gamed by foreigners.

If the president gets his way he will demoralize the republicans bringing on the effects of the 1992 & 1996 elections. There may not even be a third party but when W builds in a reversal of the fortunes of the war of 1848--it creates a kind of passivity in people when they see their leaders commit them to the status of world historical losers.

If Bush decides to put up a wall and expel the illegals then there is a chance to preserve Republican majorities. It would be helpful to promise that the USA will kill the cost of water desalination and transport so as to make it economically possible to turn the deserts 1000 miles from any desert seacoast -- green. (this would increase the habitable size of the USA by a third and double the habitable size of Mexico.)This work is already ongoing and will be accomplished in five years or so--or in about the same time frame that GM promises to have a cost effective fuel cell car. For GM as it is for the GOP its do or die time.

The chief difference between the pubbies current predicament and flight 93 is that they are currently in the cockpit. (if you presume that bush is a republican or at least more of a republican than a bilderburger.)

The point here is that if these guys cannot act like loyal americans at least they can act like republicans. ie people who have a stake in the continuity of the republican party.

Since they are not doing this the republicans in the white house and senate all need to be smacked on both sides of the face and kicked in the but.


8 posted on 05/16/2006 8:26:36 AM PDT by ckilmer
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To: RepublicNewbie

Yeah but Bush sold us to Mexico and we better learn how to speak Spanish in the next 72 hours or we will not be able to survive (extreme sarcasm).


9 posted on 05/16/2006 8:27:04 AM PDT by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: RepublicNewbie

President Bush Comes Out Swinging



HAHAHAHAHAHA! Funny!


11 posted on 05/16/2006 8:32:21 AM PDT by WhiteGuy ("Every Generation needs a new revolution" - Jefferson)
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To: RepublicNewbie

Comes out swinging? He is going to create 12 million new US citizens out of 12 million criminals. If that is "coming out swinging" then I'll take the opposite.


12 posted on 05/16/2006 8:33:10 AM PDT by piceapungens
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To: RepublicNewbie

The MSM, Kennedy, Durbin, Reid and the rest of that ilk are all tripping over themselves to say positive things about the speech and the amnesty that isn't amnesty.

I wonder how many of them will vote Republican in November.


13 posted on 05/16/2006 8:34:29 AM PDT by SUSSA
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To: RepublicNewbie
incited fear in many of us

Fear? Who is this twit?
14 posted on 05/16/2006 8:36:43 AM PDT by P-40
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To: RepublicNewbie

Secure the border, and the problem becomes very solvable. Fail to secure the border, and nothing anyone does will work.

Putting 6000 guardsmen on the border would do it; we've already seen how a couple hundred volunteers were able to secure long stretches of border simply by their presence. By simply doing what the volunteers did, which we already know will work, the border would be closed up tight as a drum.

The catch is, that isn't what the guard is going to do. They aren't going to patrol anything, they aren't going to guard anything. They are going to sit back at the office and do, what I'm not clear.

Which means, I can't help it, it looks a lot like an attempt to show an effort at the border, without actually closing it.

Furthermore, he tied sending the guard to a comprehensive solution, which makes me wonder if sending the guard has to wait for his "comprehensive" legislation. I'll be watching to see how this plays out, but it will become clear quickly if this is action or merely the appearance of action.

Close the border, and they can take all the time they need in congress to hatch their wonder-plan. But if they can't even close the border, I won't be inclined to believe anything they come up with.


20 posted on 05/16/2006 8:52:21 AM PDT by marron
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To: RepublicNewbie

A positive first step. Bush will end up doing more, much more. Not because he wants to, but because he has to.


26 posted on 05/16/2006 9:06:03 AM PDT by hershey
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To: RepublicNewbie
...got him out quickly and forcefully...

Well, that's a crock so no need to read further.

28 posted on 05/16/2006 9:09:16 AM PDT by citizen (Yo W! Read my lips: No Amnistia by any name! And the White House has a fence around it!)
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To: RepublicNewbie

"-- President Bush Comes Out Swinging. --"

What do you mean? Did he wear boxers instead of briefs? 'Cause he sure wasn't swinging on the issues....


29 posted on 05/16/2006 9:21:20 AM PDT by MainFrame65
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To: RepublicNewbie

It was just cover for trying to push through the old "guest worker", now called "temporary worker" program.


31 posted on 05/16/2006 9:36:04 AM PDT by voteconstitutionparty
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To: RepublicNewbie
"...........Swinging............."

I tend more to the use of the word 'flailing'.

33 posted on 05/16/2006 9:40:07 AM PDT by DoctorMichael (The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column!!!!!!!!!)
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To: RepublicNewbie
but we DEFINITELY agree there's a problem to be solved.

The current likely to pass immigration proposals may bring more than 100 million new immigrants in the next 20 years (assuming the nation hasn't collapsed from disunity before then). Clearly someone doesn't see a problem, a lot of someones and many of them very powerful.

36 posted on 05/16/2006 10:40:25 AM PDT by jordan8
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