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"The True History of the Southwest, 101"
My own study and research | April 8th, 2006 | Travis McGee

Posted on 04/08/2006 10:23:27 AM PDT by Travis McGee

"The True History of the Southwest, 101"

The amount of historical idiocy and fallacies surrounding the history of the Southwest is staggering, chief among them the "Aztlan" fairy tales. What's the truth? How did the Spanish Europeans conquer the Southwest? The "conquistadores" (that means "conquerors") did it with the lance, and the lash.

For example, in 1541 Coronado entered present-day New Mexico (which included present Arizona during the Spanish era) searching for the "lost cities of gold." One of his first actions upon meeting the natives was to burn 100s of them alive in their dwellings, for not handing over suspected horse thieves. That is how Spain conquered the natives of the present US Southwest--not with hugs and kisses! It was certainly no love-fest between long-lost brown-skinned soul- mates, as it is often portrayed today by the delusional Aztlaners today, who spin the "new bronze race of Mestizos" toro-mierda.

By 1821, Mexico City was strong enough to overthrow even more decrepit and ineffectual Spanish rule. However, the distant provinces of the current US Southwest were far beyond the reach of the authority of independent but strife- torn Mexico. These distant northern provinces received neither military protection nor needed levels of trade from the south. Under Spanish rule, trade with the USA was forbidden, but at least Spain provided trade and Army protection from hostile Indians. Under Mexican neglect, the Southwest received neither trade nor protection from Mexico City.

For example, Comanches and Apaches ran rampant in the 1830s in this new power vacuum created by Mexican neglect, burning scores of major ranches that had been around for hundreds of years and massacring their inhabitants. Mexico City could neither defend nor keep the allegiance of its nominal citizens in these regions. Nor did it provide needed levels of trade to sustain the prior Spanish-era standard of living. Mexican influence atrophied, withered and died at the same time that American pathfinders were opening up new routes into the region.

Increasingly, a growing America was making inroads into the Southwest, via ships into California, and via gigantic wagon trains of trade goods over the Santa Fe Trail from St. Louis. The standard of living of the SPANISH in these states subsequently increased enormously, which is why they did not support Mexico City in the 1846-48 war. In fact, the Spanish-speaking inhabitants of the Southwest NEVER considered themselves "Mexicans" at all, ever. They went, in their own eyes, from SPANISH directly to AMERICAN.

So how long did Mexico City have even nominal control over the Southwest? For only 25 years, during which they had no effective control, and the area slipped backwards until the arrival of the Americans. The SPANISH inhabitants of the Southwest NEVER transferred their loyalty to Mexico City, because all the received from the chaotic Mexican government was misrule, neglect, and unchecked Indian raids.

Since then, how long has the area been under firm American control? For 150 continuous years, during which time the former Spanish inhabitants of the region, now American citizens, have prospered beyond the wildest dreams of the Mexicans stuck in Mexico. To compare the infrastructure, roads, schools, hospitals etc of the two regions is to understand the truth. The Mexican government has been mired in graft, corruption, nepotism and chaos from the very start. The ordinary Mexican peons have been trampled and abused, while only the super-rich elites have thrived. This is why millions of Mexicans want to escape from Mexico today, to enjoy the benefits of living in America they can never obtain in Mexico.

And now, we are supposed to let any Mexican from Chiapas, Michoacan or Yucatan march into the American Southwest, and make some "historical claim" of a right to live there? From where does this absurd idea spring?

At what point in history did Indians and Mestizos from Zacatecas or Durango stake a claim on the American Southwest? Neither they nor their ancestors ever lived for one single day in the American Southwest. The Spanish living in the Southwest in 1846 stayed there, and became Americans by the treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo. There were no Spanish inhabitants of the Southwest who were marched to the border and driven into Mexico. It didn't happen. The SPANISH in the Southwest welcomed American citizenship, which brought stability, protection from Indian raids, and a vast increase in their standard of living with the increase in trade.

In sum, NO current inhabitants of Mexico have ANY claim on even one single inch of the Southwest!

NOT ONE citizen of Mexico is sneaking into the USA to reclaim property they were deprived of, NOT ONE.

They are criminal invaders and colonizers, pure and simple.

It's time Americans learned the true history, as a counter to the prevalent Aztlaner fairy tales.



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: California; US: Colorado; US: Nevada; US: New Mexico
KEYWORDS: americanhistory; aztlan; immigration; laraza; mexico; reconquista; zaq
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To: dfwgator
Like the six foot six tall Vincente Fox, who is half pure Castillian, and half Irish.

No mestizo blood dirtying up HIS lily-white veins!

201 posted on 04/10/2006 10:11:44 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: jpsb

Thanks.


202 posted on 04/10/2006 10:12:12 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Travis McGee

If you watch any Mexican TV show or listen to any of their pop stars, they are all lily-white.

Mexico resembles Apartheid-era South Africa, that's how racist their ruling class is.


203 posted on 04/10/2006 10:13:12 AM PDT by dfwgator (Florida Gators - 2006 NCAA Men's Basketball Champions)
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To: dfwgator
Mexico resembles Apartheid-era South Africa, that's how racist their ruling class is.

Oh, you mean that it is like South Africa was before the current looting and anarchy was made official policy? So is what we have to look forward to in Mexico the replacement of the racist and corrupt ruling class with a rule by communist leaning populists who take the country from unequal but somewhat functioning to in the toilet? Yeah, probably. Good analogy.

204 posted on 04/10/2006 12:31:55 PM PDT by Jack Black
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To: Jack Black

On the other hand, maybe getting a populist in charge in Mexico may encourage some of the hardcore lefties to move back.

Fox, on the surface seems to be a nice enough fellow, it's kind of hard to give him the Chavez treatment. But get a hardcore lefty in charge, would make our job a bit easier to get tough with Mexico.


205 posted on 04/10/2006 12:57:12 PM PDT by dfwgator (Florida Gators - 2006 NCAA Men's Basketball Champions)
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To: dfwgator

I like the way you think! Yeah a Chavez type could pay benefits. Fox is a nice guy, you kinda get the feeling. Hard to demonize. A flaming leftist would get a lot of people to pull their heads out of the sand.

One of the funniest signs I saw at the Mexi-rallies was "Look, behind the Bush! I think I see a Fox!"


206 posted on 04/10/2006 1:19:40 PM PDT by Jack Black
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To: NaughtiusMaximus
Where can I exchange gringo dollars for good ol' Pesos?

A few years back, I bought some silver coins (TOO few, dammit!) when silver was very cheap.

Some are US "Silver Eagles" -- some are "generic" .999 fine "Silver Round" coins. And, I made a point of buying a few Mexican Silver Peso coins.

Why would I buy Mexican .999 1 oz. coins, when they're no different from the others, "metallically speaking"?

Simple. I live in a very "Mexican-rich environment", and I figured that if things ever turn uber-uber-ugly, they'd be more readily negotiable with the invaders for trading purposes. Sort of like a Frenchman making sure he had some German cash on hand in the 1940s.

And if worse doesn't come to worst, well, they're obviously worth no less than any other generic silver 1 oz. piece.

207 posted on 04/11/2006 1:35:26 PM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: SuzyQue
9. I do not plan to have any car insurance, and I won't make any effort to learn local traffic laws.

You'll fit right in, LOL!

Some years ago, a friend who'd done some missionary work in Mexico City told me how they all drove like lunatics, and when there'd be a collision, the drivers would get out of their cars -- and instead of exchanging insurance information (ha ha ha), or even arguing with each other, they would quickly and quietly remove the license plates from their respective vehicles and then blend in with the crowd.

208 posted on 04/11/2006 1:39:44 PM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: Don Joe

Thinking, thinking, thinking . . .

Good on you mate! (No, seriously.)

If, Heaven forbid, the liberals ever come to power again, I plan to be right at the head of the line squalling for my FREE STUFF. I figure I've paid waaaaay too many taxes in my life and seen it handed out in fistfuls to society's deadbeats, I'm not going to pass up a turn at the trough.


209 posted on 04/11/2006 1:49:02 PM PDT by NaughtiusMaximus (Join me! Every night I pray for Global Warming . (And I think it's beginning to work.))
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To: planekT
Trash the dessert.

They trashed the dessert? How dare they!!! What kind of dessert was it anyway? Ice cream sundae, chocolate cake? They're Mexican so it was probably either flan or fried ice cream. Mmmmm, friieedd iiccee cream.

210 posted on 04/11/2006 2:17:40 PM PDT by usapatriot28
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To: usapatriot28

Hahaha. I'm sure they've trashed a dessert somewhere damnit....

Course, I meant desert...:-)


211 posted on 04/11/2006 2:31:19 PM PDT by planekT ([---www.wadejacoby.com/pedro---})
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To: Don Joe

I have seen similar actions here. Except for the removing of license plates, since they are not traceable back to the driver.


212 posted on 04/11/2006 5:18:03 PM PDT by SuzyQue
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To: Travis McGee

PINGGGGGGGGG....


213 posted on 07/02/2006 8:34:26 PM PDT by TLI (ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA, Minuteman Project AZ 2005, Texas Minutemen El Paso, Oct and April 2006)
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To: TLI

BTT


214 posted on 07/20/2014 9:05:12 PM PDT by L,TOWM (Too soon to start shooting?)
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To: Travis McGee

Bump


215 posted on 08/16/2014 9:30:04 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: Zavien Doombringer; Denver Ditdat

Please provide English translations. If they aren’t OK, then they should be here in the first place.


216 posted on 08/16/2014 9:33:08 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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