Posted on 04/02/2006 9:01:50 PM PDT by Pikamax
The fact that you want to downplay the communist threat to India and Nepal as Paki propaganda means you are likely just a communist yourself, which your anti-American, pro-Ayatollah, pro-Soviet positions only make too clear.
Downplay? People like you have been playing up the communist threat to India for last 50 years. So by now we should have become a Communist state. No? So what happened? Haven't had your fill with your propoganda yet?
You were even against America's nuclear deal with India because you consider America your enemy.
I am against this deal because America is extracting too high a price for the deal and secondly it opens the door for frequent arm twisting and meddling in our nuclear program by the NPT/IAEA and the anti-India hawks (such as yourself ) and there are plenty out there in Washington.
As for "secularism" you may prefer India to be run by leftists rather than Hindu Nationalists but that's no reason to impose your Bolshevism on the Hindu nation of Nepal.
Dont assume stuff about me. And if I know you well, you are an anti-Hindu. So now you want to sing a different, harp on your new found love affair with Hindu nationalism only to spite at the commies. Sorry I dont agree with your idea of WOT by starving Nepali economy. And sorry but I dont share your paranoia.
Since you, as usual, insist on being polite about things, here ya go.
The “humor” of my comment was more like “Fence off the three countries from each other.....you’ve GOT to be kidding!!”
Too much to say, but this is a brief description of all that went through my mind.
India, Pakistan and Bangladesh were one country, people, culture, tradition, history, etc. for 2 and ½ millenia. Both Bangladesh and Pakistan were “created” only in 1947, based on religion. There are still MILLIONS of Muslims in India, though I doubt there are more than a few Hindus in either of the two break-away countries.
Both Punjab and Bengal were provinces of India that existed for as long as India existed. They were split in half at the partition. They had their own language, history, rulers, traditions, their own people. The Bengali language is known for its beauty, poetry and music. The Punjab was also famous for its rise of Sikhism, a very weird mixture of Hinduism and Islam, the brainchild of Guru Narak. (It’s the world’s 4th largest religion, Christianity, Islam and Hinduism).
These two provinces, ripped in half by religion, simply cannot close off their borders to the other half of themselves. Their roots go back just too far and deep. There were MILLIONS and MILLIONS killed during the time right after partition (August 15, 1947) but the hostilities didn’t start then. They started with the introduction and rise of Islam dating as far back as 1209. There are STILL feuds in India about temples and mosques TODAY that date back 600 years.
Indians have been fighting with each other for as long as they have been Indians. But they really are family feuds. At least, that's what THEY say. They don’t want to break up their family but they will continue to feud. (It broke Ghandi’s heart, spirit and soul that Indians, both Hindus and Muslims, were insisting on the split. If he hadn’t been assassinated – by a Hindu of all people – the partition might not have happened.) It’s always hard for outsiders to watch this, but it’s USELESS to interfere in ANY way, shape or form. In fact, interference is greatly resented.
That fighting still doesn’t break the longer, deeper ties of their history.
All the hoop-la about fences is political propaganda and....hoop-la. That goes for the rest of the borders as well. The Muslims and Christians in India are immersed almost as deeply in the Hindu religion/culture/history (The three are inseparable.) as are the Hindus. The Pakistanis in the Punjab province and the Bangladeshis in the Bengal province WON’T be fenced off from their brethren in India....and vise versa.
Like I said at the beginning, the “humor” of my comment was more like “Fence off the three countries from each other.....you’ve GOT to be kidding!!”
Personally, I don’t think that India has what it takes to close their borders. The Commies did (USSR and eastern European satellites) and do (China, southeast Asia, Cuba) . All it takes is TONS of money/soldier-power and the iron-will of die-hard communism.
Most (but not all) Americans usually know almost ZIP about India. Their knowledge of India seems to go back only to yesterday.
And, as you know, without a HISTORY of a place, knowledge is incomplete. When knowledge is incomplete, the conclusions drawn from knowledge dated from YESTERDAY are deeply flawed.
Communist terror kills more Indians today than Islamic terror and is the biggest terror threat India faces. You act as if India is on the verge of turning islamic and only you can stop them. You act like the islamic threat is bigger because you are sympathetic to the communist cause. Is India islamic yet?
it opens the door for frequent arm twisting and meddling
Yes you prefer to be America's enemy and oppose any movement closer between America and India because then India may actually start to act like America's ally and you don't want that. Too bad for commies like you. Your deals with the Ayatollahs might get pushed to the side so you can work with the US instead? Well boo-hoo.
And if I know you well, you are an anti-Hindu
You don't know me at all. All you know is the lies you tell about all Americans just like me who you consider your enemies. I don't believe in Hinduism but I'm not anti-Hindu, I just don't defend Hindu persecution of Christians, like you do. You remind me of leftist Christians in the US who side with the ACLU against other Christians. They suppress their own religion in the public square because they are so scared that some muslim also might be allowed to pray. They ban their own religion so they can ban islam too. They prefer tyranny to freedom because they're cowards, like you.
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