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Bill would bar doctors from asking about guns POLL TO FREEP AT LINK
The Virginian-Pilot ^
| February 23, 2006
| By JANETTE RODRIGUES,
Posted on 02/23/2006 6:47:11 AM PST by SWO
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To: SWO
or asks for safety counseling about them Any doc I ask for gun advice from better be named Holliday.
To: Onelifetogive
Another example of the government telling people how they can talk to other people..... When "talking to people" involves intimidation, conspiracy to deprive them of their Rights, and harassment under color of law; then the the government has a duty to get involved.
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posted on
02/23/2006 3:54:19 PM PST
by
Mulder
(“The spirit of resistance is so valuable, that I wish it to be always kept alive" Thomas Jefferson)
To: GovernmentShrinker
I'm going to hope you're right, but I'm also going to be watching close.
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posted on
02/23/2006 3:55:38 PM PST
by
ApplegateRanch
(Mohamophages of the world, unite!)
To: mbraynard
This is a bad bill and violates the principal of free speech. This isn't a speech issue.
It is about one group of folks abusing their power to harass and intimidate (at the least), or (at the most) engage in a conspiracy to compile a list of gunowners to be used against them in the future.
The government has an obligation to protect individual Rights.
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posted on
02/23/2006 3:57:14 PM PST
by
Mulder
(“The spirit of resistance is so valuable, that I wish it to be always kept alive" Thomas Jefferson)
To: SWO
Unless you are at the doctor's office being treated for a gun shot wound, whether you own a gun or not is none of the doctor's business.
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posted on
02/23/2006 3:58:27 PM PST
by
Luis Gonzalez
(Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
To: SWO
I have more guns than I have counted recently and I've been a member of the NRA since before I was grown. I have introduced my kids to firearms and they know how to use them.
That being said I do NOT favor legislation that limits the professional relationship between a doctor and his or her patient. There are lots a places the government doesn't belong. That's one of them, IMHO
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posted on
02/23/2006 3:58:50 PM PST
by
muir_redwoods
(Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
To: SWO
If parents think the question is intrusive, Lucas said they can always tell the health care provider: "It's none of your business." Which comment would then be forwarded to "child protection" investigators as proof of bad parenting abilities.
To: dsc
Guns? Sure, and we have a game where we spread them all over the floor, and the first kid to match up all the guns with the right ammunition gets to shoot somebody.LOL!
When I took my son in for his first checkup, the Dr. asked if we had guns in the house. I told him I couldn't wait until he was 5 or so, so I wouldn't have to clean my guns any more. He laughed.
To: doc30
Even so, do you believe the government should restrict someone's first amendment rights like this? If they can do that, then they can restrict your second amendment rights as well. Yeah, before you know it, the gov't will be telling us we need permission to carry a gun, along with what kind of guns we can own and where we can carry them.
But seriously, I think you are missing the big picture.
The gun grabbers have come to the conclusion that they have failed at implemting their agenda through the legislative process. In all but a few states, it is impossible to enact any gun control. To the contrary, most states are currently liberalizing their gun laws to become more aligned with the intent of the Founders.
Having failed at the legislative process, the gun grabbers are now attempting to enact their agenda via multinational corporations and the insurance industry.
Want to work for XYZ corporation, or have medical insurance for your family? Then you must sign a form saying you don't have guns, and agree to a corporate HR bozo inspecting your home. That is where all this is going.
Virginia gunowners, fortunately, have a very proactive organization up there (VCDL) that is at the forefront in heading a lot of this stuff off.
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posted on
02/23/2006 4:06:56 PM PST
by
Mulder
(“The spirit of resistance is so valuable, that I wish it to be always kept alive" Thomas Jefferson)
To: Galveston Grl
If you ever give a doctor knowledge of unlawful activity, they can report you Not only this, but I *think* they must get some kind of bonus for doing so.
One time, I went to the doctor to get Xrays of my ankle that I had injured falling down some stairs. The nurse engaged in some very low level interrogation tactics to get me to "confess" to being in a fight (which I wasn't).
Be real careful that your kids understand that doctors (teachers, police officers, etc.) are not their best friends and blabbing unnecessarily or to get attention is not to their advantage. Your medical record will become a part of a national computer system sooner or later so keep it in a way that will look pretty to employers, insurers and cops.
Worth repeating a million times. You get the big picture.
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posted on
02/23/2006 4:12:43 PM PST
by
Mulder
(“The spirit of resistance is so valuable, that I wish it to be always kept alive" Thomas Jefferson)
To: robertpaulsen
I gotta have a copy of this!
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posted on
02/23/2006 4:19:23 PM PST
by
Panzerlied
("We shall never surrender!")
To: Brad Cloven
When I was asked this question, the doc *definitely* did *not* ask about swimming pools or other common safety issues.
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posted on
02/23/2006 4:23:22 PM PST
by
FreedomPoster
(Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
To: Panzerlied
Here's a nice .pdf one to print that also contains a hand-out for the physician:
http://www.2ampd.net/Articles/horn2/Firearms%20Malpractice%20Form.pdf
To: doc30
Being forced to answer a question is a violation of my First Amendment Rights.
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posted on
02/23/2006 4:57:04 PM PST
by
Shooter 2.5
(Vote a Straight Republican Ballot. Rid the country of dems. NRA)
To: FreedomPoster
Here you go....the copy that you reformatted for SAS (thank you). It's in pdf version so it can be easily downloaded and printed.
Physician Affidavit
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posted on
02/23/2006 4:58:19 PM PST
by
2nd amendment mama
( www.2asisters.org • Self defense is a basic human right!)
To: 2nd amendment mama
Thanks. I really need to get one of my code-writing friends to write a little applet that will snag all the FR usernames that have made posts to a page.
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posted on
02/23/2006 5:23:21 PM PST
by
FreedomPoster
(Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
To: SWO
"The bill hits at the heart and core of prevention and protecting our children," I totally agree. My arsenal enables me to do a much better job of protecting my children.
Question: Do you possess firearms?
Answer (depending on my mood): None of your business or yes and I have a couple on me.
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posted on
02/23/2006 5:27:46 PM PST
by
paul51
(11 September 2001 - Never forget)
To: SWO; antiRepublicrat; dsc; lakeman; Squint; Onelifetogive; the gillman@blacklagoon.com; ...
A few pings to some of the folks posting on this thread.
See the document at the replied-to post, from the Second Amendment Sisters. It's a small *.pdf, that is meant to be printed front-and-back, and tri-folded.
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posted on
02/23/2006 5:30:06 PM PST
by
FreedomPoster
(Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
To: Steve_Seattle
With how difficult HMOs and other quasi-socialized medicine groups are making it to switch doctors, I don't have an issue with this. The fact that they only ask about FAs and not "do you have a pool in the back yard? do you cover it? is there a fence around it?" tends to prove that they are abusing the doctor-patient relationship and restrictions in free choice in order to keep a form of tabs and registry on their patients (don't forget Slick Willie's misleadingly titled "Medical Privacy Act" which actually enabled health agencies to share databased information with other agencies) and to make law-abiding citizens feel pressured into not exercising their 2nd Amendment rights.
Since the increase in Medicare/Medicaid regulations and other government regulations and the MPA, doctors are more and more becoming agents of the state. I object to this. But until we get the free market back into medicine, it is as wrong for doctors to ask this question as part of their personal political agenda as it would be for agents of the DMV.
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posted on
02/23/2006 5:36:09 PM PST
by
Ghost of Philip Marlowe
(Liberals are blind. They are the dupes of Leftists who know exactly what they're doing.)
To: Mulder
So the government can forbid me from asking you if you have guns?
That is so assinine. You cannot let the government control what someone has to say outside of the typical five understood exclusions (libel/slander, etc.)
This weapon is just like mandating that restaurants have to forbid smoking.
There is no conspiracy of doctors - and 'none of your business' is a legitemate reply AS IS boycotting doctors who do ask that question. That is how CONSERVATIVES get things done.
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posted on
02/23/2006 6:00:33 PM PST
by
mbraynard
(I don't even HAVE a mustache!)
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