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The City Of The White Men (Who Built Tiahuanaco)
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Posted on 02/01/2006 4:27:40 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
As his last (?) project, Heyerdahl was in the Andes somewhere, investigating a known but obscure site with a bunch of pyramids. Heyerdahl's excavations on Easter Island in the 1950s turned up a statue (shown in "Aku-Aku" I think) that was an early ancestor to the famous statues of that place, and also has affinities to art of Tiahuanaco.
There was a claim that the plaza at Tiahuanaco was built to align with (I think) the sunrise at the equinox, but that the alignment was only valid about 17,000 years ago. That is very poor methodology, obviously, since there is no inscription or carved illustration showing that intent. That's my usual complaint for most archaeoastronomical claims. The site is obviously not 17,000 years old.
Surviving stonework was set without mortar (a common technique in PreColumbian America), but there are also carved channels to bridge across the tops of many of the stones; metal joiners were either pounded in to the holes, or molten metal poured in to fill the channels. The same technique was used here and there in pharaonic Egypt.
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posted on
02/01/2006 9:05:08 PM PST
by
SunkenCiv
(In the long run, there is only the short run.)
To: SunkenCiv
"...metal joiners were either pounded in to the holes, or molten metal poured in to fill the channels. The same technique was used here and there in pharaonic Egypt." I'm pretty sure it was poured. What was the metal, bronze?
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posted on
02/01/2006 9:20:05 PM PST
by
blam
To: blam; FairOpinion; Ernest_at_the_Beach; StayAt HomeMother; 24Karet; 3AngelaD; asp1; ...
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posted on
02/01/2006 9:45:06 PM PST
by
SunkenCiv
(In the long run, there is only the short run.)
To: blam
I thought that Quetzalcoatl was a feathered, winged serpent!
Mark
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posted on
02/01/2006 9:47:49 PM PST
by
MarkL
(When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
To: blam
Wow, excellent pics. Only way those of us that don't/can't travel can see the wonders of archaeological finds.
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posted on
02/01/2006 10:02:08 PM PST
by
Dustbunny
(May God be gracious to us and Bless us and make his face shine upon us Ps67:1 Selah)
To: Arthalion
All premodern cultures seem to have idealized white color and light skin just as white is the universal color of "purity" and legendary founders are described as light skinned.In every culture known, the ruling class has been made up of lighter skinned prople and rulers married their progeny to lighter skinned mates. When a darker skinned usurper founded a new dynasty he did the same thing. He married his sons and daughters to the lighter skinned eligibles. Aristocracies did/do the same. It is still the norm in all cultures though fading in the most advanced. It occurs among our own very "tolerant" and liberal elite.
I would discount the legends of founders or lawgivers or redeemers being light skinned just because their status as gods and heroes seems to require that characteristic because the founders and gods are "pure".
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posted on
02/02/2006 2:37:57 AM PST
by
ThanhPhero
(di hanh huong den La Vang)
To: blam
ping for checking back.
I wonder if deep ocean current (set and drift) could be calculated for period around 200 A.D.
I doubt it's changed in such a short geographic period of time.
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posted on
02/02/2006 2:54:27 AM PST
by
Toadman
To: Renfield
No writing either. They kept records using knotted threads.
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posted on
02/02/2006 3:28:36 AM PST
by
Junior
(Identical fecal matter, alternate diurnal period)
To: blam
I would like to point out that, with the exception of gold, silver and copper, the New World civilizations were essentially stone age. Their "advanced technology" extended to flaking obsidian knives for ritual sacrifices -- something the "barbaric" Europeans had considered obsolete for millennia. The club and the obsidian-edged sword were the height of New World military technology.
Even their architectural prowess was matched millennia earlier by the Egyptians and Romans and surpassed by Medieval Arabs.
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posted on
02/02/2006 3:35:15 AM PST
by
Junior
(Identical fecal matter, alternate diurnal period)
To: bikepacker67
Gee... since the folks in that region don't bow toward the East and pray several times a day, I guess we can rule out friendly Muslim adventurers....
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posted on
02/02/2006 4:11:57 AM PST
by
StoneGiant
(Power without morality is disaster. Morality without power is useless.)
To: blam
Z. Sitchin's book 'The Lost Realms' has a very extensive & informative chapter on Tiahuanaco with lots of diagrams of the layout. Of course, he ties it in with his 12th planet astronauts but he does give a lot of info and interesting insight about the archaeological finds there. His theory is that it was constructed and operated as a tin mine and processing plant.
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posted on
02/02/2006 4:12:17 AM PST
by
shuckmaster
(An oak tree is an acorns way of making more acorns)
To: blam
Do a google for Pedro Cieza de León. He seems to be the one who discovered and gave the earlier accounts.
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posted on
02/02/2006 4:21:52 AM PST
by
shuckmaster
(An oak tree is an acorns way of making more acorns)
To: blam
I've been there. My parents were stationed in Bolivia for several years, around the time I was in 2nd to 4th grade. I remember it being very cold and grey but the stones were very big. I've always wanted to go back as an adult and see it again.
NFP
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posted on
02/02/2006 4:23:43 AM PST
by
Notforprophet
(Democrats have stood their own arguments on their heads so often that they now stand for nothing.)
To: blam
It's easy to see where the Inca got their stone-cutting skills from. Funny that all these advanced, high-altitude civilizations in South America... got their beginnings in the fetid jungles.
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posted on
02/02/2006 4:32:00 AM PST
by
johnny7
(“Iuventus stultorum magister”)
To: muawiyah
"After all, the Old World had bows and arrows in the late Paleolithic (thousands of years ago), but the invention appears to have not reached the New World until about 800AD."
So, if we accept the Bering land bridge theory, those who crossed 15,000 years ago didn't bring the bow with them?
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posted on
02/02/2006 7:35:30 AM PST
by
dsc
To: Little Bill
Some Spaniards and Italians have dark skin due to Moorish occupation.
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posted on
02/02/2006 7:46:09 AM PST
by
Bob J
(RIGHTALK.com...a conservative alternative to NPR!)
To: dsc
Correct. They brought the spear. They had other weapons as well.
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posted on
02/02/2006 8:00:23 AM PST
by
muawiyah
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To: Bob J
Some Moors have dark skins due to Italian and Spanish occupation.
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posted on
02/02/2006 8:00:57 AM PST
by
muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
"Correct. They brought the spear. They had other weapons as well."
I marvel, as I remember my sons making bows for themselves from materials scrounged around the house, from around the age of five or so.
It boggles my mind: how could intelligent men go so many millenia (100 or more?) without that particular light bulb coming on?
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posted on
02/02/2006 8:04:24 AM PST
by
dsc
To: ThanhPhero
In every culture known, the ruling class has been made up of lighter skinned prople and rulers married their progeny to lighter skinned mates. You can see that in the upper classes of Mexico today. It seems that the rich men tend to choose blonde-haired, blue-eyed wives.
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posted on
02/02/2006 8:05:27 AM PST
by
Max in Utah
(By their fruits you shall know them.)
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