More like this, IMO,
You are a typical envirowhicko liberal malthusian doomsdayer, IMO.
Posted on 01/01/2006 12:25:56 PM PST by NormsRevenge
We had to add a second this year to the atomic clocks due to the slowing of the earth's rotation. These wind farms are a potential cause of the earth's slowing rotation. How much do we add next year?
Ha! Good one.
No.
My view of abortion is far more complex.
Ordinarily abortion is a bad thing because it allows women too much sexual freedom which erodes the family and society.
However the world is grossly overpopulated and our society and family life is wrecked anyway (in part thanks to abortion).
And yes, the fetus is a human being.
But it is a human unborn.
A baby born is a more valuable genetic investment than a baby unborn, as a baby born has already proven himself fit, and his mother has risked her life to birth him.
Which is why we have evolved to feel more sentimental when looking at a fully formed baby than when looking at a fertilized egg.
One hypothesis on local climate effects:
http://www.sciencenews.org/articles/20041016/fob7.asp
And anyway, they're still not my kids.
Lots of envirowackoes are coming around on nuclear, as it seeps into their virgin brains that disposing of a bit of nuclear waste is probably easier than dealing with the proliferation of greenhouse gasses they fear so much.
More like this, IMO,
You are a typical envirowhicko liberal malthusian doomsdayer, IMO.
Right.
End of the stone age happened because population grew to large to support on a stone age economy.
Which reminds me, pretzels are very unhealthy, but unfortunately we have too many people to feed properly, so we must rely on agriculture and such unhealthy foods as bread.
My heating bill is in excess of $300 this month and yes, this is in spite of my family and I using more blankets and sweaters, cutting down the thermostat when we're not home, and getting our furnace tuned up. It is time to build nuclear power plants, drill for oil in ANWAR and off the coasts, and cut a deal with Alberta for natural gas. Any politician who does not offer a sensible energy program and call the envirowackos what they are should be shown the door in 2006!
Ah...so since private industry is now using windmills, the 'environmentalists' are going to oppose them? Just further proof the 'environmental movement' isn't about the environment at all - but simply anti-capitalist.
I spent much of last year in Germany for business reasons. I was AMAZED at how many windmills dot the countryside, across significant parts of the country. You'll be running along down the Autobahn, and suddenly run across half a dozen or more huge windmills turning on a hill side. They don't wreck the view in my opinion, but then again, they aren't building them around tourist areas, either.
I was curious, and did some digging into what the German experience has been. Simply stated, they are generating about 5% of their current power via wind (latest 2005 figures that I can find). Per current figures, it costs them more than double for wind generated power versus nuke or conventional power. (some sources claim it's more like 3% percentage of power generated, and costs as high as triple versus other power sources - pick your data points, and make your own judgement.)
Another problem that they've run into is that areas with lots of wind energy don't necessarily have the distribution network to support putting power back into the system (high-power transmission lines). This is a big deal, as it's costing them a fortune to tie this in to the national power structure. This cost is generally NOT included in the expense of developing wind power...
Die Gruenen (the Greenies) have passed a law that mandates them shutting down their nuke power plants in 20 years. Since nuke represents about 35% of their current power (out of 19 plants), I'm curious how they intend to replace this energy source. I'm pretty confident that this will go out the window, eventually, but-?? /shrug.
Inquiring minds would love to know how this will work out... I like the idea of getting something (power) for nothing, but by the time you finance the thing, build it, pull maintenance on it, connect it to the power grid.. it ain't exactly free. Oh yeah, you also can't depend on it 24x7, 365, since the wind doesn't offer any guarantees.
cheers
"Within Europe, Germany is the market leader for installation. By the middle of 2004 Germany had installed a total capacity of 15,688 MW, enough to generate 6.2% of the national electricity demand. Spain has been the next most active market after Germany. In 1993 just 52 MW of wind energy capacity was operating in Spain, ten years later this had increased to 6,420 MW, spread across most of the country’s regions, and supplying about 5% of the nation’s electricity." More info than you want at the European Wind Energy Association.
For the USA, try the American Wind Energy Association
Gotto go, it's past my bedtime!
Texas and Oklahoma should be making a fortune on wind power, just as they have with their oil. The only problem is that wind gusts of 60-70 mph are a bit rough on the machinery.
bookmarked for reference # 52
Federal Butt-insky Alert!
A proposal to build offshore wind turbine towers along the New Jersey shore led to a 15-month moratorium on such projects while a special panel studies the issue.
A wind farm planned in a small town in Vermont has sparked criticism that the nearly 400-foot towers would ruin the rural landscape and hurt tourism.
In Kansas, conservation groups have asked state officials to create guidelines for wind energy developments, citing concerns that more wind farms will harm the last remnants of the nation's prairie grass and prairie chicken populations.
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