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Global Warming...Poppycock
Iceagenow ^ | 2004 | Professor David Bellamy

Posted on 12/29/2005 8:15:58 AM PST by scouse

Global Warming? What a load of poppycock!

Here are some excerpts from a great commentary by Professor David Bellamy published in the Daily Mail:

“Whatever the experts say about the howling gales, thunder and lightning we've had over the past two days, of one thing we can be certain. Someone, somewhere - and there is every chance it will be a politician or an environmentalist - will blame the weather on global warming.

“But they will be 100 per cent wrong. Global warming - at least the modern nightmare version - is a myth. I am sure of it and so are a growing number of scientists. But what is really worrying is that the world's politicians and policy makers are not.

“Instead, they have an unshakeable in what has, unfortunately, become one of the central credos of the environmental movement. Humans burn fossil fuels, which release increased levels of carbon dioxide - the principal so-called greenhouse gas - into the atmosphere, causing the atmosphere to heat up.

“They say this is global warming: I say this is poppycock. Unfortunately, for the time being, it is their view that prevails.

“As a result of their ignorance, the world's economy may be about to divert billions, nay trillions of pounds, dollars and roubles into solving a problem that actually doesn't exist. The waste of economic resources is incalculable and tragic.

“Let me quote from a petition produced by the Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine, which has been signed by over 18,000 scientists who are totally opposed to the Kyoto Protocol, which committed the world's leading industrial nations to cut their production of greenhouse gasses from fossil fuels.

“They say: 'Predictions of harmful climatic effects due to future increases in minor greenhouse gasses like carbon dioxide are in error and do not conform to experimental knowledge.'

“You couldn't get much plainer than that. And yet we still have public figures such as Sir David King, scientific adviser to Her Majesty's Government, making preposterous statements such as 'by the end of this century, the only continent we will be able to live on is Antarctica .'

“Ah, ice ages... those absolutely massive changes in global climate that environmentalists don't like to talk about because they provide such strong evidence that climate change is an entirely natural phenomenon.

“It was round about the end of the last ice age, some 13,000 years ago, that a global warming process did undoubtedly begin.

“Not because of all those Stone age folk roasting mammoth meat on fossil fuel camp fires but because of something called the 'Milankovitch Cycles,' an entirely natural fact of planetary life that depends on the tilt of the Earth's axis and its orbit around the sun.

“The glaciers melted, the ice cap retreated and Stone Age man could begin hunting again. But a couple of millennia later, it got very cold again and everyone headed south. Then it warmed up so much that water from melted ice filled the English Channel and we became an island.

“The truth is that the climate has been yo-yo-ing up and down ever since. Whereas it was warm enough for Romans to produce good wine in York , on the other hand, King Canute had to dig up peat to warm his people. And then it started getting warm again.

“Up and down, up and down - that is how temperature and climate have always gone in the past and there is no proof they are not still doing exactly the same thing now. In other words, climate change is an entirely natural phenomenon, nothing to do with the burning of fossil fuels.

“In fact, a recent scientific paper, rather unenticingly titled 'Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide Concentrations Over The Last Glacial Termination,' proved it.

“It showed that increases in temperature are responsible for increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide levels, not the other way around.

“But this sort of evidence is ignored, either by those who believe the Kyoto Protocol is environmental gospel or by those who know 25 years of hard work went into securing the agreement and simply can't admit that the science it is based on is wrong.

“The link between the burning of fossil fuels and global warming is a myth. It is time the world's leaders, their scientific advisers and many environmental pressure groups woke up to the fact.”


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This site is worth a visit...Quite a bit of info'.
1 posted on 12/29/2005 8:15:59 AM PST by scouse
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To: scouse

I hope this "gets legs". I'm tired of the doomsaying junk science global warming crowd getting all the press.


2 posted on 12/29/2005 8:26:02 AM PST by WayneS (Honor the 2nd Amendment; repeal the 16th.)
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To: scouse

I hope this "gets legs". I'm tired of the doomsaying junk science global warming crowd getting all the press.


3 posted on 12/29/2005 8:26:19 AM PST by WayneS (Honor the 2nd Amendment; repeal the 16th.)
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To: scouse

Something really has to be done about the sun! We need to hurl spaceships (moonrockets) at the sun, filled with ice chips--- lots of ice chips.

I can't stress enough the importance of building the "solar fan"-- in conjunction with ice chips-- to aid in solar cooling.

Someone think of the chilrens!!!!

The chilrens!!!

Where were the buses??!


4 posted on 12/29/2005 8:39:10 AM PST by emiller
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To: scouse

Thanks for posting this but- they will just call the guy a conservative and that will disprove what he says in their minds.


5 posted on 12/29/2005 8:41:12 AM PST by westmichman (Please pray with me for global warming)
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To: scouse

“The link between the burning of fossil fuels and global warming is a myth. It is time the world's leaders, their scientific advisers and many environmental pressure groups woke up to the fact.”

This simple statement will never get air time with the US MSM because there is no tragedy/chaos/mayhem in it that can be exploited to increase ratings/circulation/revenue.


6 posted on 12/29/2005 8:45:28 AM PST by WmCraven_Wk
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To: rb22982

bump for later


7 posted on 12/29/2005 8:48:21 AM PST by rb22982
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To: scouse

Last night's Coast-to-Coast with George Noory featured an author Robert Felix who presented a theory that many of the major climatic trends we observe can be attributed to the heat flow from mid-oceanic ridge vulcanism. Most C2C guests and material are pure rubbish but this particular guest I believe is an exception. He gave sound arguments for the migration of the gulf stream which has been observed, and the decided cooling trend of places like Great Britain which is also observed. I believe there is merit to this individual's theory, and deserves a bit more focus in the mainstream. Incidentally his book is called "Not By Fire, But By Ice". It is no doubt available at the usual suspects.


8 posted on 12/29/2005 9:16:10 AM PST by SpaceBar
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To: scouse
“But this sort of evidence is ignored, either by those who believe the Kyoto Protocol is environmental gospel or by those who know 25 years of hard work went into securing the agreement and simply can't admit that the science it is based on is wrong.

“The link between the burning of fossil fuels and global warming is a myth. It is time the world's leaders, their scientific advisers and many environmental pressure groups woke up to the fact.”

..The link between the burning of fossil fuels and global warming

9 posted on 12/29/2005 10:04:09 AM PST by Donald Rumsfeld Fan ("fake but accurate": NY Times)
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To: SpaceBar
Last night's Coast-to-Coast with George Noory featured an author Robert Felix who presented a theory that many of the major climatic trends we observe can be attributed to the heat flow from mid-oceanic ridge vulcanism. Most C2C guests and material are pure rubbish but this particular guest I believe is an exception.

Nope, Felix is as much of a kook and idiot as pretty much all of Coast-to-Coast's guests.

He cites a fabricated article from "India Daily" on his site, and he simply provides a laundry list of underwater volcanoes, without providing any evidence that there has been an INCREASE in underwater volcanism.

10 posted on 12/29/2005 11:20:06 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: scouse

Very good info and it's best summedupin one word........globaloney!


11 posted on 12/29/2005 11:50:57 AM PST by american spirit (Can you handle the truth? - www.rbnlive.com ( 4-6 CST M-F)) / click "listen live")
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To: scouse

oops......Very good info and it's best summed up in one word........globaloney!


12 posted on 12/29/2005 11:51:50 AM PST by american spirit (Can you handle the truth? - www.rbnlive.com ( 4-6 CST M-F)) / click "listen live")
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"Man is the major cause of global warming. He has to be. I can sense it."

Actual quote from an acquaintance of mine.

13 posted on 12/29/2005 11:57:09 AM PST by GSWarrior
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To: scouse

Global Warming behaves more like an ideology than a scientific theory.


14 posted on 12/29/2005 11:59:36 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (NYT Headline: 'Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS: Fake But Accurate, Experts Say.')
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ping


15 posted on 12/29/2005 12:05:39 PM PST by crghill
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To: scouse; cogitator

Interesting read? What say you, cogitator?


16 posted on 12/29/2005 12:10:12 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (I-901: A freeway funded entirely by Washington State Smoking Nazis...)
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To: Strategerist
Nope, Felix is as much of a kook and idiot as pretty much all of Coast-to-Coast's guests.

Well, thanks for the heads up. I never bothered to check the guy's theory out in depth. I have however suspected over the years that submarine vulcanism is peculiarly absent from various global heat budget discussions.
17 posted on 12/29/2005 12:18:02 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: scouse
Has David Bellamy gone mad?

Junk Science: David Bellamy's inaccurate and selective figures on glacier shrinkage are a boon to climate change deniers (I recommend reading the whole thing, which is very, uh, interesting. Pertinent excerpt below).

"Iceagenow was constructed by a man called Robert W Felix to promote his self-published book about "the coming ice age". It claims that sea levels are falling, not rising; that the Asian tsunami was caused by the "ice age cycle"; and that "underwater volcanic activity - not human activity - is heating the seas".

Is Felix a climatologist, a volcanologist or an oceanographer? Er, none of the above. His biography describes him as a "former architect". His website is so bonkers that I thought at first it was a spoof. Sadly, he appears to believe what he says. But there, indeed, was all the material that Bellamy cited in his letter, including the figures - or something resembling the figures - he quoted. "Since 1980, there has been an advance of more than 55% of the 625 mountain glaciers under observation by the World Glacier Monitoring group in Zurich." The source, which Bellamy also cited in his email to me, was given as "the latest issue of 21st Century Science and Technology".

"21st Century Science and Technology? It sounds impressive, until you discover that it is published by Lyndon LaRouche. Lyndon LaRouche is the American demagogue who in 1989 received a 15-year sentence for conspiracy, mail fraud and tax-code violations. He has claimed that the British royal family is running an international drugs syndicate, that Henry Kissinger is a communist agent, that the British government is controlled by Jewish bankers, and that modern science is a conspiracy against human potential."

By the way, his glacier advance statistics are biased due to an inadvertent keystroke, and in any case the correct statistics are apparently circa 1989. I'm not kidding.

18 posted on 12/29/2005 1:07:54 PM PST by cogitator
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Nope, Felix is as much of a kook and idiot

I'm glad you said that first. It appears that Bellamy, a kind enough (and accomplished enough) guy, has been misled, and may have made some mistakes due to age. And it's possible (a blog rumor) that he's being paid by an anti-wind farm group.

19 posted on 12/29/2005 1:10:06 PM PST by cogitator
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

See above. Thanks for el pingo, despite my need for el pepto (Bismol) after reading it.


20 posted on 12/29/2005 1:11:05 PM PST by cogitator
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