[Conservatrix]

JOHN 15
1 I am the true VINE, and my Father is the husbandman."


I believe that. My faith in Jesus is based on much more than a "few statements."

BTW what does this have to do with the main point of this thread, Santa Claus and public school?

[MineralMan]

I have no idea. The topic has strayed, as usual...

[mcg1969]

Just to be clear, I believe in the truth of 1 John 15:1 just as you do.

My point is this. Jesus is not, in fact, a vine. He never has been, and never was. But he said he was a vine; the true vine, in fact.

So why did he say that? Why did he say something that is not, in fact, true?