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Lead Did in Beethoven?
FoxNews ^ | December 15, 2005 | Steven Milloy

Posted on 12/16/2005 8:49:53 AM PST by ZGuy

Beethoven’s death made headlines last week when researchers supposedly “confirmed” that Beethoven died from lead poisoning.

Now, I don’t doubt that the researchers found “elevated” levels of lead in Beethoven’s skull, but that’s a long way from concluding that lead caused or contributed to his death.

First, the researchers stated that their new findings “confirm the earlier work done on [Beethoven’s] hair samples” – which reportedly had lead concentrations on the order of 60 parts per million.

But there are significant problems with the researchers’ reliance on the hair lead measurements. Hair lead levels in the U.S. have been measured at 100 ppm in children and 155 in adults with no reported clinical health effects.

And the measurement of “elevated” lead levels in Beethoven’s hair doesn’t necessarily indicate that he had toxic lead levels in his vital organs.

Beethoven’s hair lead measurements, in fact, have little meaning and certainly can’t be used to bolster any alleged import of the bone fragment “measurements” – which are of dubious significance in their own right.

Since 50 ppm skull bone measurements in elderly males seems to be of little concern and that lead level may very well be consistent with the “elevated” lead concentrations reportedly observed in Beethoven’s skull fragments – it’s quite likely that lead had nothing to do with Beethoven’s death.

So what was the cause of Beethoven’s death? No one really knows. But based on an autopsy performed the day after Beethoven died, it seems that he experienced kidney failure possibly caused by his overuse of analgesic powdered willow bark and alcohol.

The Argonne researchers’ conclusion seems to be just another overzealous interpretation of dubious measurements in hopes of sensational headlines. Scholars ought to be wary of such junk science-fueled myth-making.

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1 posted on 12/16/2005 8:49:54 AM PST by ZGuy
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To: sitetest

Another view of last week's story.


2 posted on 12/16/2005 8:51:18 AM PST by ZGuy
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To: ZGuy; 1rudeboy; 31R1O; afraidfortherepublic; Andyman; Argh; baa39; Bahbah; bboop; ...

Dear ZGuy,

Thanks for the ping!

Classical Music Ping List ping!

If you want on or off this list, let me know via FR e-mail.

Thanks!


sitetest


3 posted on 12/16/2005 8:55:06 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: ZGuy

Does this qualify him as the first "Heavy Metal Artist"?


4 posted on 12/16/2005 8:55:18 AM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: sitetest
Beethoven's dead??

Jeez, nobody tells me anything.

5 posted on 12/16/2005 8:56:53 AM PST by Argh
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To: PBRSTREETGANG
Yeah, I thought he was acting a little funny/.

6 posted on 12/16/2005 8:58:11 AM PST by evets (God bless president Bush!)
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To: Argh

Dear Argh,

"Beethoven's dead??

"Jeez, nobody tells me anything."


Yes, and he's been decomposing since.

(I couldn't resist!! LOL!!!)


sitetest


7 posted on 12/16/2005 8:59:47 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: sitetest

!! Well, I'm glad nobody told me about that part.


8 posted on 12/16/2005 9:01:37 AM PST by Argh
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To: ZGuy

9 posted on 12/16/2005 9:02:40 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: ZGuy

yawn. Why do people post this tripe?


10 posted on 12/16/2005 9:10:17 AM PST by Cobra64
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To: Cobra64
Spicy Pork tripe


11 posted on 12/16/2005 9:12:23 AM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: ZGuy

I thought it was video that did him in...


12 posted on 12/16/2005 9:16:08 AM PST by P-40 (http://www.590klbj.com/forum/index.php?referrerid=1854)
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To: Zuben Elgenubi

Touche! LOL


13 posted on 12/16/2005 9:16:19 AM PST by Cobra64
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To: ZGuy

"Scholars ought to be wary of such junk science-fueled myth-making." Hah. This to a culture that tolerates homeopathy and alternative sh|t.


14 posted on 12/16/2005 9:27:43 AM PST by dhuffman@awod.com (The conspiracy of ignorance masquerades as common sense.)
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To: sitetest

Am I the only guy who remembered that today is Ludvig van's birthday? Happy Geburstag, Maestro Beethoven!


15 posted on 12/16/2005 9:54:50 AM PST by Pharmboy (The stone age didn't end because they ran out of stones.)
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To: Pharmboy

Dear Pharmboy,

No, you're not the only one. I've been searching the Internet to find a good "Beethoven's Birthday" article to post, but I haven't found anything I'd really want to post.


sitetest


16 posted on 12/16/2005 9:56:14 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: ZGuy
Since 50 ppm skull bone measurements in elderly males seems to be of little concern...

Beethoven died at the age of 57. I guess that was elderly for those days.

17 posted on 12/16/2005 9:58:03 AM PST by luvbach1 (Near the belly of the beast in San Diego)
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To: ZGuy
Lead Poisoning Killed Beethoven.

And I thought it was Chuck Berry.

18 posted on 12/16/2005 10:04:13 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Tooke, Tooke, Tookie, good bye; Tooke, Tooke, Tookie, please die!)
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To: Pharmboy
Am I the only guy who remembered that today is Ludvig van's birthday? Happy Geburstag, Maestro Beethoven!

I'm sure this guy remembered.

19 posted on 12/16/2005 10:08:58 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: ZGuy

Roll over, Beethoven - Get the Lead Out!


20 posted on 12/16/2005 10:39:27 AM PST by Hegemony Cricket (Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof - usually by midmorning, or so.)
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