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Sen. Clinton Crafts Vague Stance On War With Eye to 2008
Washington Post ^ | December 12, 2005 | Dan Balz

Posted on 12/11/2005 5:15:50 PM PST by ncountylee

At a time when politicians in both parties have eagerly sought public forums to debate the war in Iraq, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) has kept in the shadows.

Clinton has stayed steadfastly on a centrist path, criticizing President Bush but refusing to embrace the early troop withdrawal options that are gaining rapid favor in her party. This careful balance is drawing increasing scorn from liberal activists, frustrated that one of the party's leading lights has shown little appetite to challenge Bush's policy more directly and embrace a plan to set a timetable for bringing U.S. forces home.

Clinton is confronting the Democratic Party's long-standing dilemma on national defense, with those harboring national ambitions caught between the passions of the antiwar left and political concerns that they remain vulnerable to charges of weakness from the Republicans if they embrace the party's base. But some Democrats say, the left not withstanding, her refusal to advocate a speedy exit from Iraq may reflect a more accurate reading of public anxiety about the choices now facing the country.

When Senate Democrats called on President Bush last month to explain the conditions and establish a schedule for redeploying U.S. forces, Clinton supported the measure. When Rep. John P. Murtha (D-Pa.) called for redeploying all U.S. troops from Iraq over the next six months, the New York senator told reporters she was opposed. When her advisers were later asked whether she supports a two-year phased withdrawal advocated by a liberal think tank and embraced by Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean, they demurred.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
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1 posted on 12/11/2005 5:15:51 PM PST by ncountylee
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To: ncountylee
This "news story" is page one in tomorrows Washington Post.

Ooops..forgot the Barf Alert.

2 posted on 12/11/2005 5:17:03 PM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: ncountylee

Hillary may run as an independent.

I firmly believe she invited hecklers into her own rally, so she could gain sympathy as a "moderate".


3 posted on 12/11/2005 5:18:42 PM PST by SteveMcKing ("No empire collapses because of technical reasons. They collapse because they are unnatural.")
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To: ncountylee
The leftists don't care how many times she changes position, stakes out both sides of any position, or outright lies in their face.

She's their saviour and they know she's just trying to fool some of the people.

4 posted on 12/11/2005 5:18:48 PM PST by OldFriend (The Dems enABLEd DANGER and 3,000 Americans died.)
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To: ncountylee
I don't suppose Dan had the Balz to actually ask for an interview with the Queen.
5 posted on 12/11/2005 5:21:01 PM PST by Steely Tom
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To: ncountylee
This careful balance is drawing ORCHESTRATED scorn from liberal activists who have been enlisted by the Hitlery campaign to help distance the Beast from her radical liberal constituency.
6 posted on 12/11/2005 5:21:32 PM PST by jimbo123
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To: ncountylee
When will Hillary become a born again Christian? Thats the question and it's next. I understand she had a vision the last time she was in Vermont. Vermont Liberals against Christmas await the news....with baited breath...developing....
7 posted on 12/11/2005 5:23:30 PM PST by Candor7 (Into Liberal Flatulence Goes the Hope of the West)
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To: jimbo123
The eyes have it.

What a piece of XXXX she is.

8 posted on 12/11/2005 5:25:37 PM PST by AGreatPer
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To: ncountylee

I find it difficult to read this as a hillary puff piece.

"Sen. Clinton Crafts Vague Stance On War With Eye to 2008"

"At a time when politicians in both parties have eagerly sought public forums to debate the war in Iraq, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) has kept in the shadows."

Come, come. She "crafts a vague stance" and she does it for purely political reasons? Who but a starry-eyed hillary groupie would read that in a positive light?

Other politicians are debating the war, but hillary has "kept in the shadows." It sounds opportunistic and sinister to me.

If I were hillary, I think I'd send someone out to assassinate Don Balz's cat, and drop it on his front porch.


9 posted on 12/11/2005 5:44:14 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: ncountylee
When her advisers were later asked whether she supports a two-year phased withdrawal advocated by a liberal think tank and embraced by Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean, they demurred.

Hmmm...."demurred"....somehow, that doesn't sound like the 'ol hillary....I would have expected something like "Thos fuc****Jew Bastrds!"

Oh well........

FMCDH(BITS)

10 posted on 12/11/2005 5:54:26 PM PST by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: Cicero

Dan Balz is also on PBS Washington Week if you ever desire to make yourself sick.


11 posted on 12/11/2005 6:05:51 PM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: ncountylee

It's been around 15 years since I last watched the TV set, except for VHSs and DVDs.


12 posted on 12/11/2005 6:12:52 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: ncountylee

how could anyone rely on this person? She's in it for HERSELF same as her hubby ole impeached former prez willie was. All for them and them for themselves. She's as wishy washy as john kerry. Flip Floppette.


13 posted on 12/11/2005 6:31:12 PM PST by cubreporter (I trust Rush. He has done more for this country than anyone will ever know. He's A++)
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To: SteveMcKing

Hillary has an extremely liberal voting record.

Remember Bill Clinton when he said abortion should be safe, legal, and rare.

What did he do about it. He gave us an aclu supreme court judge, breyer, vetoed partial birth abortion ban, sent u.s taxpayer money overseas to fund abortions, gave ru pill.


With Hillary look at her voting record not what she says. Look at what she does not what she says.


Hillary is an extreme liberal not a moderate.


14 posted on 12/11/2005 8:33:28 PM PST by johnmecainrino
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To: jimbo123
This careful balance is drawing ORCHESTRATED scorn from liberal activists who have been enlisted by the Hitlery campaign to help distance the Beast from her radical liberal constituency.

I think you nailed it.

The Moonbats have been running wild with the most nasty rhetoric virtually unchecked.
All the while Hillary has been suprisingly subdued.
I contend that Bush is setting up the Dems again because regardless of what they think, Victory in Iraq
is on the horizon.  The tipping point is Thursday and the elections will be the beginning of the end.
The Clintons smell a rat in all of this I think and she has refused to get on board with the moonbats.

This ought to get really interesting soon.

Cheers,

knews hound

Latest Article "The Rope a Dope Gambit"
15 posted on 12/11/2005 8:55:11 PM PST by knews_hound (i know my typing sucks, i do it one handed ! (caps are especially tough))
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To: ncountylee
Even the media's starting to get fed up with Her Infernal Majesty's fence-straddling on Iraq. They've completely thrown in with the Dean/Murtha/Pelosi cut and run crowd, and they're basically telling Hillary that if she knows what good for her she'll enthusiastically join their team as well.

This is it for Hillary. She's trying to use Bill's and Dick Morris' triangulation strategy, but that thing is a decade old and totally unsuited to today's political climate. She's in real danger of discovering one day very soon that the democrat party and all her former acolytes in the media have moved on and left her behind, as they realize that she is completely incapable of adapting to the new terrain. She almost has to try going hard left now, and even then it may be too late - the whackjobs may never completely trust her.

Ironically, we may owe Cindy Sheehan a debt of gratitude, because she may have done what the entire GOP was incapable of doing - neutralize Hillary Clinton as a viable presidential candidate.

16 posted on 12/11/2005 9:12:00 PM PST by CFC__VRWC ("Anytime a liberal squeals in outrage, an angel gets its wings!" - gidget7)
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To: ncountylee
bump

hillary dumps Geena for Maggie,1 and when that doesn't fly,2 she dumps Maggie for bill. Without missing a beat.

It's the old Dick Morris Hail Mary pass, (when in trouble, triangulate3), the once trusty play that for eight years kept two clumsy kleptocrats4 in the Oval Office and out of the slammer (even as it placed America and Americans in ever-increasing peril.)5

That missus clinton has managed, thereby, to stake out Iraqi territory occupied apparently by no one6 seems to have escaped her notice. Nonetheless, this constituency of zero is the least of her troubles.

COMPLETE ARTICLE

IMPERIOUS HILLARY
(THE REPORTS OF HER DEATH ARE GREATLY UNDERSTATED)
by Mia T, 12.05.05

 
 
 






WHY HILLARY MUST NOT WIN. WHY HILLARY CANNOT WIN.


AN OPEN LETTER TO TIM ROBBINS, DAVID GEFFEN, CHRIS MATTHEWS, MAUREEN DOWD + JEANINE PIRRO
RE: a not-so-modest proposal concerning hillary clinton
December 7, 1941+64


IMPERIOUS HILLARY
(THE REPORTS OF HER DEATH ARE GREATLY UNDERSTATED)



IS DICK MORRIS AN IDIOT? OR IS HE STILL ON THE CLINTON PAYROLL?


REINVENTING HILLARY... AGAIN
(clinton machine dumps Geena Davis for Margaret Thatcher)
how the clintons are handling the hillary dud factor2


SCHEMA PINOCCHIO
how the clintons are handling the hillary dud factor


HILLARY'S COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF PROBLEM
(see descriptor morphs)


for the birds
(THE INCOMPETENCE OF HILLARY CLINTON)


HILLARY FLUNKED D.C. BAR EXAM
"the smartest woman in the world" sought less competitive venue


1st Feminist Prez Impeached
(clinton, pushed by the "smartest woman in the world," managed to impeach himself)


HILLARY!?? WHAT IS THIS MORIBUND LOSER DOING IN THE POLITICAL ARENA, ANYWAY? (bill's bud explains)


THE OLYMPIC HILDABEAST FLOPS
hillary stupidly invokes clinton utter failure: 9/11


HEAR CHRIS MATTHEWS + MAUREEN DOWD DEVOUR HILLARY


THE DANGER OF RUNNING VICARIOUSLY
Bill O'Reilly chews up and spits out the hillary clinton candidacy
(clip included)


 
COPYRIGHT MIA T 2005


17 posted on 12/13/2005 4:41:21 AM PST by Mia T
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To: ncountylee
Real profile in courage is Sen. Clinton.

Snort.

18 posted on 12/13/2005 4:42:03 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: SteveMcKing
I firmly believe she invited hecklers into her own rally, so she could gain sympathy as a "moderate"--SteveMcKing

If that is the case, then missus clinton has taken her incompetence to new lows.

Did you hear her response to the hecklers? She sounds like a cross between a school marm in a snit and some hapless guy's live-in mother-in-law.

What security mom would entrust her kiddies to this creature?






WHY HILLARY MUST NOT WIN. WHY HILLARY CANNOT WIN.


AN OPEN LETTER TO TIM ROBBINS, DAVID GEFFEN, CHRIS MATTHEWS, MAUREEN DOWD + JEANINE PIRRO
RE: a not-so-modest proposal concerning hillary clinton
December 7, 1941+64


IMPERIOUS HILLARY
(THE REPORTS OF HER DEATH ARE GREATLY UNDERSTATED)



IS DICK MORRIS AN IDIOT? OR IS HE STILL ON THE CLINTON PAYROLL?


REINVENTING HILLARY... AGAIN
(clinton machine dumps Geena Davis for Margaret Thatcher)
how the clintons are handling the hillary dud factor2


SCHEMA PINOCCHIO
how the clintons are handling the hillary dud factor


HILLARY'S COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF PROBLEM
(see descriptor morphs)


for the birds
(THE INCOMPETENCE OF HILLARY CLINTON)


HILLARY FLUNKED D.C. BAR EXAM
"the smartest woman in the world" sought less competitive venue


1st Feminist Prez Impeached
(clinton, pushed by the "smartest woman in the world," managed to impeach himself)


HILLARY!?? WHAT IS THIS MORIBUND LOSER DOING IN THE POLITICAL ARENA, ANYWAY? (bill's bud explains)


THE OLYMPIC HILDABEAST FLOPS
hillary stupidly invokes clinton utter failure: 9/11


HEAR CHRIS MATTHEWS + MAUREEN DOWD DEVOUR HILLARY


THE DANGER OF RUNNING VICARIOUSLY
Bill O'Reilly chews up and spits out the hillary clinton candidacy
(clip included)


 
COPYRIGHT MIA T 2005


19 posted on 12/13/2005 5:09:31 AM PST by Mia T
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To: Mia T

You didn't say anything, you just cut-and-pasted a lot of crap that nobody will bother to read.


20 posted on 12/13/2005 9:57:55 AM PST by SteveMcKing ("No empire collapses because of technical reasons. They collapse because they are unnatural.")
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