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To: 68skylark

New? This was around in WW2.


2 posted on 12/05/2005 11:04:14 AM PST by English Nationalist
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To: English Nationalist
New? This was around in WW2.

Cannister has been a standard artillery load at least since the Napoleonic Wars.

All of our artillery has it, and all our tanks did through the 105mm gun on the M-60.
At least during the Vietnam era there was also a Flechette Round which was a cannister filled essentially with 20 pounds of nails.
I can't imagine why it was never provided for the 120mm.

So9

14 posted on 12/05/2005 11:11:46 AM PST by Servant of the 9 (Trust Me)
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To: English Nationalist

It's grapeshot and has been around as long as there have been cannons.


17 posted on 12/05/2005 11:13:31 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: English Nationalist
My Great-great-great uncle Benjamin F. Cassell was killed by grape shot and cannister fire in the battle of the Peach Orchard on the second day at Gettysburg. He was a Captain in Barksdale's Brigade.

Everything old is new again.

TAW

18 posted on 12/05/2005 11:13:44 AM PST by Malichi
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To: English Nationalist
Yeah, but there hasn't been such a munition crafted for firing from the Abrams main gun til now.

Since the inception of the 120mm-armed Abrams tank, we have lacked a true anti-personnel weapon system.

see?

19 posted on 12/05/2005 11:13:51 AM PST by ExcursionGuy84 ("Jesus, Your Love takes my breath away.")
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To: English Nationalist

Gunner, troops in the open, 75m, Beehive, fire at will...


22 posted on 12/05/2005 11:15:50 AM PST by Cvengr (<;^))
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To: English Nationalist
New? This was around in WW2.

Canister's been around since before the Civil War. Grapeshot longer than that.

It's an awesome anti-personnel weapon.

24 posted on 12/05/2005 11:17:57 AM PST by Kenton (The worst tragedy that ever befell Africa was the end of colonialism.)
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To: English Nationalist
This was around in WW2.

They were using canister and grape shot at least as far back as the Civil War.

27 posted on 12/05/2005 11:20:32 AM PST by IronJack
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To: English Nationalist

"New? This was around in WW2."

This was around in the Revolutionary war when George Washington ordered the men to put their buttons and belt buckles into the cannons.

Heck, this was probably done with a catapult 3,000 years before that.


29 posted on 12/05/2005 11:21:58 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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To: English Nationalist

Stuarts used them on Guadalcanal


40 posted on 12/05/2005 11:34:00 AM PST by wildcatf4f3 (admittedly too unstable for public office)
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To: English Nationalist

they reinvent the gattlinggun and now grapeshot


47 posted on 12/05/2005 11:41:51 AM PST by wildcatf4f3 (admittedly too unstable for public office)
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To: English Nationalist
Now microprocessor controlled 1,200 tungsten balls

http://proceedings.ndia.org/5560/Thursday/Session_IV-A/Friedberg.pdf
48 posted on 12/05/2005 11:42:25 AM PST by JustAnotherOkie
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To: English Nationalist
New? This was around in WW2.

Googling led to this Kiwi history piece, which refers to case shot in the 1453 siege of Constantinople (not sure which side), and recalls its use in WWII jungle warfare:

The Gun - Smoothbore Era 1550-1860: Projectiles

63 posted on 12/05/2005 11:54:24 AM PST by yatros from flatwater
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To: English Nationalist
New? This was around in WW2.

How true and also a Union/Rebel favorite during the Civil War!

64 posted on 12/05/2005 11:54:51 AM PST by democrats_nightmare
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To: English Nationalist
I saw a similar cartridge at Gettysburg for a cannon. At the Union position at the top of Pickett's charge they have a display. They basically fired them at point blank range during deepest penetration by the South.
I'm guessing the new version has a bit more kick however!
66 posted on 12/05/2005 11:55:47 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (Never bring a knife to a gun fight, or a Democrat to do serious work...)
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To: English Nationalist

"New? This was around in WW2."

They were shooting canister during the civil war...just not out of tanks.


88 posted on 12/05/2005 1:19:52 PM PST by Busywhiskers ("...moral principle, the sine qua non of an orderly society." --Judge Edith H. Jones)
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To: English Nationalist
New? This was around in WW2.

And the Civil War.

101 posted on 12/06/2005 4:42:13 AM PST by Tulsa Brian
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