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Enemy Press [Nails The Lying Liberal MSM ALERT]
FrontPage Magazine ^ | Dec. 5, 2005 | David Horowitz

Posted on 12/05/2005 7:03:59 AM PST by conservativecorner

This is a war. You can be unhappy about it and sit it out. That's ok. That's what a democracy is about. You're right to dissent. You can criticize the war and vote for another government that will leave the field of battle. That's ok too. That's also what a democracy about. But while an elected government and the young men and women it sends into battle are engaged with a ruthless enemy in the field, you can't work to cripple their efforts , or do the work of the enemy side and expect the rest of us not to regard you as a saboteur and a Judas and an enemy within.

These thoughts are provoked by the lead story in Saturday's Los Angeles Times and then by a missing lead in the paper the next day. On Saturday the lead story headline in the Times was "Bomb Kills 10 Marines At Fallouja." What kind of a lead story is this? We're in a war. What's the big news that ten soldiers have died? And by one roadside bomb? It could happen any day -- even on the last of a war before a peace. There is no story. This is hardly news. It's like running a headline that today 110 people were killed in car accidents. Actually that's a fact (or a ballpark fact -- if 55,000 Americans die every year from car wrecks). But no one writes headlines about it because it's not news. It's life as we know it. As long as there are millions of cars on the roads and they're driven by people like us, there are going to be accidents and deaths. So too with war.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: biasmeanslayoffs; enemywithin; fifthcolumn; horowitz; iraq; liberalmedia; sedition
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To: RexBeach

I have misunderstood NOTHING. I am quite familiar witht the technique you are using: redefining the issue. Why didn't you answer my question about "major" making a difference instead of telling me I misunderstood you. Nothing disproves an accusation like a refutation!


21 posted on 12/05/2005 8:28:32 AM PST by papertyger
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To: LOC1

Absof'nlutely !!!!!!


22 posted on 12/05/2005 8:30:51 AM PST by Marxbites
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To: conservativecorner

In the Sacramento Bee "Blast kills key al-Qaida deputy" was on page 12.
"Needy feel chill 0f heating costs" was on page 1 of this Sunday's paper. I just bought it because I needed the ads.


23 posted on 12/05/2005 8:36:44 AM PST by willk
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To: papertyger

I am redefining nothing. I am writing about news judgement, and why the story played the way it did.



24 posted on 12/05/2005 8:39:03 AM PST by RexBeach ("The rest of the world is three drinks behind." -Humphrey Bogart)
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To: colorcountry
Down with those in our own country that plot our failure. I hate them with a hate beyond rage because they threaten the very success of our nation. We need to determine who our enemy is, and fight them with a vengence.

I think the reason they are hated so thoroughly is because of their betrayal. They are WORSE than the terrorists because they betray their own.

I hope the next time the Jihadis try to bomb the Palestinian Hotel, our guys just point out to them the best place to park in order to get the most of them.

25 posted on 12/05/2005 8:40:28 AM PST by McGavin999 (Reporters write the truth, Journalists write stories.)
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To: born in the Bronx

The war began in March, 2003. Major combat operations ceased several weeks later.

You people are not reading my earlier posts. I agree with you - not disagree.


26 posted on 12/05/2005 8:41:16 AM PST by RexBeach ("The rest of the world is three drinks behind." -Humphrey Bogart)
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To: conservativecorner

We should withdraw from California where more Americans are slain every year than soldiers in Iraq. If it were repeated in the news over and over every day as the MSM hammers the bad news from Iraq, maybe a huge exodus from CA would take place. Barbara Boxer should work on her own problems.

There were over 14,000 slayings in the USA last year, a decrease from the previous year. That does not include the thousands of deaths caused by alcohol and drugs. Where are the headlines?

Our republican elected officials don't seem to know the value of repetition and countering the leftist democrats' control of the public perception of the war, the economy, etc.


27 posted on 12/05/2005 8:45:25 AM PST by Bushiefan
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To: RexBeach
So, if ten Marines are killed no one cares? And it's not news...to anyone.
55,000 traffic fatalities are incurred annually in the US. If you could create a war or other program which would cause 2000 deaths over a two-year span but would save 55,000 lives in each of those years would you do it? I submit that you would - and that America's military personnel would glory in that mission.

The point is that the newspaper is headlining the deaths in Iraq much more than they are emphasizing the far more numerous highway fatalities to which we are accustomed. So, is it your position that "100 Americans are killed on the highway (and more, on the average single day) - and no one cares? Because that is the tenor of the relative newspaper coverage.


28 posted on 12/05/2005 8:46:00 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters but PR.)
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To: colorcountry

bttt


29 posted on 12/05/2005 8:51:38 AM PST by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: RexBeach
I am redefining nothing. I am writing about news judgement, and why the story played the way it did.

No, you are not. What you are doing is parroting the MSM dodge. I know what "news judgement" is, and what it means, and how it's used to throw "outsiders" off the trail of what's being done.

Answer the question. What is difference does MAJOR make?

30 posted on 12/05/2005 8:54:31 AM PST by papertyger
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

I completely agree with you.

It's been rather a long time in Iraq since we lost so many men, in one ambush, due to an IED. That's part of the equation.

I care that they died, and I am sure you do, too.

Read my other posts. Obviously, others are not. I agree with you all - I am merely trying to explain why this received wide reportage(despite the MSM's loathing of the war and President Bush).

I, too, would like to hear more about all the GOOD things going on in Iraq. There's a lot to report in that department, but bad news always plays better than good news. That's a fact. You can't change it.


31 posted on 12/05/2005 8:54:48 AM PST by RexBeach ("The rest of the world is three drinks behind." -Humphrey Bogart)
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To: RexBeach
"So, if ten Marines are killed no one cares? And it's not news...to anyone...."

Yes, people care if 10 Marines are killed, I care if one Marines is killed. BUT, what I took from the article is something I've considered for some time now. Every democrat talking head and media anchor portrays the presence of our soldiers in Iraq as if the soldiers were really the child next door in junior high, who was ripped from their parents arms and marched at gunpoint to Iraq to be a sacrificial offering purely for the entertainment of the Bush, Chaney and Rumsfeld war mongers.

Our soldiers are never spoken of as brave and intelligent young men and women who knowingly VOLUNTEERED to protect our Nation and their fellow men. The good works and successes of our soldiers are seldom enumerated.

I mourn the loss of each and every one. And I thank God that there are young, strong, proud and patriotic soldiers willing to defend us from terrorists around the world. I also thank God that the loss of lives has been relatively small when compared to any other war in history.

I want to praise the troops for the job they're doing and honor those who gave their lives in doing their jobs honorably.
We cannot bring them back, but we can be grateful to them forever.

I live near Syracuse,NY and in any group of 150,000 to 160,000 people, there are going to be deaths. Car accidents, drive by shootings, (three last weekend)sports accidents, hunting accidents, drug overdoses, work accidents,illness, etc.etc. Instead of relegating the deaths of soldiers to the obituary page, or screaming headlines on the front page, it would be more honorable for papers around the country to dedicate a sidebar on the front page with a memorium listing the name, age and hometown of our fallen soldiers month to month.
32 posted on 12/05/2005 8:55:43 AM PST by thepizzalady (The Truth will set you free.)
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To: papertyger

I already answered that question. You chose not to accpet the answer. Therfore, I cannot help.


33 posted on 12/05/2005 8:56:10 AM PST by RexBeach ("The rest of the world is three drinks behind." -Humphrey Bogart)
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To: thepizzalady

Please read my earlier posts on this thread. I agree with you.


34 posted on 12/05/2005 8:57:27 AM PST by RexBeach ("The rest of the world is three drinks behind." -Humphrey Bogart)
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To: papertyger
Therefore the LA Times is an enemy combatant, and should be scooted off to Gitmo immediately. I like your thinking.
35 posted on 12/05/2005 9:03:24 AM PST by Fielding ("Others have died for my freedom, now this is my mark" Cpl. Jeffrey B. Starr")
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To: RexBeach
Bull Sh!t he has! You reiterate your mantra of "since Major combat ended", and im gonna fricken loose it! If our omniscient president could have seen the multi year war in its entirety, he probably would not have used that line in that particular speech. What he did was a good thing; it was very good for me and my brothers in arms to hear. Yes, we are just as involved as we were then, but believe it or not....putting down and insurgency and performing stabilization ops is tough work and will cost lives.

I am an American fighting man, fighting in the forces which guard my country and our way of life.....I am prepared to give my life in their defense.

This isnt news (front page)...or shouldn't be. The good things, the almost miraculous things I do should be.
36 posted on 12/05/2005 9:10:29 AM PST by TheGunny
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To: RexBeach
I already answered that question. You chose not to accpet the answer.

No, you didn't. You have consistently dodged answering that question, and blamed your victims by claiming they aren't reading what you wrote. They "read" what you wrote alright, what they are not doing is "buying" it.

37 posted on 12/05/2005 9:14:18 AM PST by papertyger
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To: RexBeach
I'm not attacking you in any way. I was just responding to your comments and the article in general.

With a very slow dial up connection, there were only 3 total posts when I originally replied to yours.
38 posted on 12/05/2005 9:14:20 AM PST by thepizzalady (The Truth will set you free.)
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To: TheGunny

I have family in Iraq in the service - both in the USMC. I do not mean to anger you.

You are missing the point I am trying to make. Ten Marines being killed by an IED, at one time, months after the last time that occurred is newsworthy. Bad news will always "play" better than good news. That is the nature of reportage in western newspapers.

I, too, wish to have the GOOD things reported - at least frequently as the bad news. But the likelihood of that occurring is nil - as we all know.

You and your comrades are doing a great job in Iraq. Thank you. And thanks for your comments.


39 posted on 12/05/2005 9:26:02 AM PST by RexBeach ("The rest of the world is three drinks behind." -Humphrey Bogart)
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To: TheGunny
The problem is, this type runs into so many idiots, after a while they begin to assume anyone who isn't "them" is an idiot.

They think telling their employees to take a manditory, unpaid, vacation excuses them from having to pay unemployment.

40 posted on 12/05/2005 9:26:51 AM PST by papertyger
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