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Conviction With an Angle Is Upheld by Court of Appeals (Pythagorean Theorem Nabs Criminal)
New York Times ^ | November 23, 2005 | MICHAEL COOPER

Posted on 11/24/2005 11:00:30 AM PST by nickcarraway

ALBANY, Nov. 22 - Pythagoras won his day in court on Tuesday.

The question before the state's highest court, the Court of Appeals, was whether a man named James Robbins was guilty of selling drugs within 1,000 feet of a school - which carries a longer sentence - when he was arrested in March 2002 on the corner of Eighth Avenue and 40th Street in Manhattan and charged with selling drugs to an undercover police officer.

The nearest school, Holy Cross, is on 43rd Street between Eighth and Ninth Avenues. How to measure? On foot, Mr. Robbins's lawyers argued, the school is more than 1,000 feet away from the site of the arrest, because the shortest route is blocked by buildings. But as the crow flies, the authorities said, it is less than 1,000 feet away.

Law enforcement officials calculated the straight-line distance using the Pythagorean theorem (a2 + b2 = c2) measuring the distance up Eighth Avenue (764 feet) as one side of a right triangle, and the distance to the church along 43rd Street (490 feet) as another, to find that the length of the hypotenuse was - 907.63 feet.

Lawyers for Mr. Robbins argued that the distance should be measured as a person would walk it because "crows do not sell drugs." But in a unanimous ruling, the seven-member Court of Appeals upheld his conviction and held that the distance in such cases should be measured as the crow flies.

"Plainly, guilt under the statute cannot depend on whether a particular building in a person's path to a school happens to be open to the public or locked at the time of a drug sale," Chief Judge Judith S. Kaye wrote in the opinion.

Mr. Robbins is currently serving a 6-to-12-year sentence.

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1 posted on 11/24/2005 11:00:31 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Pythagorous done stole he theorem from de black Africans!


2 posted on 11/24/2005 11:15:14 AM PST by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: nickcarraway

These "circumfrence" laws are bull hockey.


3 posted on 11/24/2005 11:15:28 AM PST by The Cuban
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To: nickcarraway
He was arguing the "taxicab norm". Personally, I'd like to see the L norm used.
4 posted on 11/24/2005 11:15:52 AM PST by AmishDude
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To: nickcarraway
Well, since the distance limit clearly means the relative ease of access [to humans, not to crows], I'd tend to buy the argument of his defense.
5 posted on 11/24/2005 11:23:47 AM PST by GSlob
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Proximity !!!


6 posted on 11/24/2005 11:32:45 AM PST by Syberyenta
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To: nickcarraway
**Lawyers for Mr. Robbins argued that the distance should be measured as a person would walk it because "crows do not sell drugs."

LOL

7 posted on 11/24/2005 11:34:16 AM PST by perfect stranger
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To: nickcarraway

Is the distance measured to the edge of the school parcel or to the actual nearest corner of the building?


8 posted on 11/24/2005 11:36:23 AM PST by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: Wally_Kalbacken

Uh, yeah, was there a need for that post on this thread?

Anyways, I'm glad to see a guy is going up the river for 6-12 when a child molester can get out in less time.


9 posted on 11/24/2005 11:39:49 AM PST by Skywalk (Transdimensional Jihad!)
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To: nickcarraway

He is committing a crime in an area with an above average concentration of children.

Dump him in a DEEP hole and forget to pull him out.


10 posted on 11/24/2005 11:42:52 AM PST by ConvservativeVet ("If it is not seemly, do it not; if it is not true, speak it not.")
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To: AmishDude

Another analyst!


11 posted on 11/24/2005 11:56:21 AM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: 17th Miss Regt

Oh, no, I'm a combinatorialist.


12 posted on 11/24/2005 12:09:22 PM PST by AmishDude
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To: AmishDude

abs(a)+abs(b) is the Manhattan distance
(used not just by taxicabs but in clustering algorithms as well).
sqrt(a^2 + b^2) is the Euclidean distance -- but yes, a trivial consequence of the Pythagorean theorem.


13 posted on 11/24/2005 12:12:15 PM PST by scrabblehack
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To: AmishDude

Good thing you are not a topologist. They are all warped. And holier than thou.


14 posted on 11/24/2005 12:13:00 PM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: nickcarraway
Lawyers for Mr. Robbins argued that the distance should be measured as a person would walk it because "crows do not sell drugs."

If there are any birds in the animal kingdom that would sell drugs, you can bet your ass they'd be crows.

And before some troll thinks I'm saying that because they're black: no.  And grow up. 

It's because they're crows.  Anyone who's spent any length of time around crows knows what I'm saying.

15 posted on 11/24/2005 12:18:56 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Base. All Yours = Mine.)
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IIRC, taxis charge by distance travelled; this new legal definition of 'distance' appears to mean that they can only charge for the straight-line distance.

Be interesting to see somebody argue that before the same court.


16 posted on 11/24/2005 12:20:53 PM PST by Grut
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To: AmishDude
The Pythagorean theorem in my opinion has more value in everyday use than almost any other formula I learned in my 16 plus years of math lessons.
17 posted on 11/24/2005 12:23:46 PM PST by darbymcgill
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To: 17th Miss Regt

I don't know why. I didn't even think there were any algebraic topologists anymore. It was hot for a while and then some places (Kansas U.) got stuck with a bunch of 'em. Pity the department with too many mathematical biologists now.


18 posted on 11/24/2005 12:30:37 PM PST by AmishDude
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Won't work. Taxis measure by distance travelled (think arc length) but this law defines distance as distance from a point. This needs to be invariant with respect to the street grid. I suppose you could compute the great circle route, but the scumbag would still be too close to a school that way.


19 posted on 11/24/2005 12:33:12 PM PST by AmishDude
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Pity the department with too many mathematical biologists now.

Not sure what that means. Do you have some evidence that math bio is no longer a hot topic?
20 posted on 11/24/2005 12:46:00 PM PST by The people have spoken
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