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Another Presbyterian group meets with Hezbollah leader
Presbyterian Layman ^ | Nov 23, 2005 | John Adams

Posted on 11/23/2005 10:11:39 AM PST by Presbyterian Reporter

With the Presbyterian Church (USA) already under fire for its one-sided policy calling for divestment of funds in corporations that do business with Israel, another delegation from the PCUSA met recently with the leader of Southern Lebanon's Hezbollah, a reputed terrorist organization.

The meeting had a highly partisan political flavor, with the Hezbollah leader criticizing the policies of President George W. Bush and the spokesman for the Presbyterian delegation assuring his host that none of the members of the delegation had voted Democratic or supported the U.S. policies in the Mideast.

The PCUSA delegation was led by the Rev. Nuhad Tomeh, whose work as the associate general secretary of Middle East Conference of Churches in Beirut is profiled on a PCUSA Web page. Tomeh is also the regional liaison for the PCUSA for Syria, Lebanon, Iraq and the Gulf.

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PCUSA Missionary Nuhad Tomeh has led/made arrangements for several Presbyterian groups to visit Hezbollah. It is known Tomeh was part of the May 2002, June 2004, October 2004, and now the October 2005 visit.
1 posted on 11/23/2005 10:11:42 AM PST by Presbyterian Reporter
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Here is the entire report in the Presbyterian Layman:

With the Presbyterian Church (USA) already under fire for its one-sided policy calling for divestment of funds in corporations that do business with Israel, another delegation from the PCUSA met recently with the leader of Southern Lebanon's Hezbollah, a reputed terrorist organization.

The meeting had a highly partisan political flavor, with the Hezbollah leader criticizing the policies of President George W. Bush and the spokesman for the Presbyterian delegation assuring his host that none of the members of the delegation had voted Democratic or supported the U.S. policies in the Mideast.

The Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI), a highly respected, nonpartisan organization that monitors and translates Arabic publications and broadcasts, reported the October visit of the Presbyterian delegation with "Shiekh Nabil Qawug," a variant spelling from Nabil Qaouk. The full text of MEMRI's report is posted on the organization's Web site.

The PCUSA delegation was led by the Rev. Nuhad Tomeh, whose work as the associate general secretary of Middle East Conference of Churches in Beirut is profiled on a PCUSA Web page. Tomeh is also the regional liaison for the PCUSA for Syria, Lebanon, Iraq and the Gulf.

The spokesman for the PCUSA delegation was Robert Worley, a retired professor at McCormick Theological Seminary. Worley also taught part-time from 1980 to 1998 at the near East School of Theology in Beirut. He received the first McCormick Seminary Service Award in 2003. The award said Worley "reflected McCormick's commitments to global ecumenical interfaith, multicultural (immigrant) and urban faith in communities, and to the values of love, justice, peace, and disciplined and critical reflection."

After Qawug (Qaouk) delivered a harsh indictment of President Bush, MEMRI said Worley responded: "We do not wish to defend the U.S. administration. We all elected the Democratic Party against the Republican Party. Rest assured that we will return to the U.S. in order to continue our activity for peace, and we want to hear about the charity activities and the cultural and social activities organized by Hizbullah in south [Lebanon]. The Americans hear in the Western media that Hizbullah is a terrorist organization, and they do not hear any other opinion. They know nothing about the party's concern for the people of the south. We have suffered much pressure on the part of Jewish organizations in the U.S. because [of our help in] divesting corporations working with Israel. We want Jerusalem to be a united city, just as we encouraged the Palestinians and the Jews to work for peace, and we demanded that our administration adheres to this position."

MEMRI's report also included a recap of a Presbyterian delegation's meeting with Hezbollah – more commonly spelled Hizbollah in the Middle East – last year.

"A year previously, on October 17, 2004, a Presbyterian Church USA delegation visiting Lebanon also met with Qawuq. MEMRI TV translated excerpts from a report on the meeting that was aired by Hizbullah's Al-Manar TV. During the meeting, church elder Ronald Stone said, 'We treasure the precious words of Hizbullah and your expression of goodwill towards the American people. Also, we praise your initiative for dialogue and mutual understanding. We cherish these statements that bring us closer to you. As an elder of our church, I'd like to say that according to my recent experience, relations and conversations with Islamic leaders are a lot easier than dealings and dialogue with Jewish leaders.' The release received extensive coverage by media outlets in the West; the delegation was condemned by U.S. congressmen, and ultimately two delegation members were dismissed from their positions in the Church."

MEMRI's Web site includes a video clip of Stone's comments. Stone, a retired professor of Christian ethics at Pittsburgh Theological Seminary, was a member of a Presbyterian delegation that was sponsored by the denomination's Advisory Committee on Social Witness Policy.

Denominational officials said they advised the group not to meet with Hezbollah. After the trip, John Detterick, executive director of the General Assembly Council, fired two of the delegation's leaders – Peter Solyuk, director of the Advisory Committee on Social Witness Policy, and Kathy Lueckert, Detterick's deputy executive director.

Another Presbyterian delegation from San Francisco Theological Center also met in Lebanon with Hezbollah leaders. But the Arabic press reported no political statements similar to the remarks of Stone and Worley.


2 posted on 11/23/2005 10:13:04 AM PST by Presbyterian Reporter
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And another 'mainstream' church going down the toilet.


3 posted on 11/23/2005 10:22:04 AM PST by nuke rocketeer
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"'We treasure the precious words of Hizbullah and your expression of goodwill towards the American people. Also, we praise your initiative for dialogue and mutual understanding. We cherish these statements that bring us closer to you. As an elder of our church, I'd like to say that according to my recent experience, relations and conversations with Islamic leaders are a lot easier than dealings and dialogue with Jewish leaders.'

These Terrorists ass kissers should be sent to Gitmo.

4 posted on 11/23/2005 10:23:10 AM PST by No Blue States
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The ELCA (Evangelical Lutheran Church in America) representatives were probably scrambling to get in line right behind them.


5 posted on 11/23/2005 10:23:30 AM PST by Infantry Grunt 1968-69
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the Presbyterian delegation assuring his host that none of the members of the delegation had voted Democratic or supported the U.S. policies in the Mideast.

Uhh..? Did they mean that all of them had Democrat, or that none of them had voted Republican?

6 posted on 11/23/2005 10:25:22 AM PST by expatpat
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To: nuke rocketeer

Not all presbyterians are created equally. The PCA and OP are still Biblical.


7 posted on 11/23/2005 10:26:29 AM PST by twigs
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>> the spokesman for the Presbyterian delegation assuring his host that none of the members of the delegation had voted Democratic <<

That's a pretty profound editorial screwup.


8 posted on 11/23/2005 10:26:43 AM PST by dangus
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To: nuke rocketeer

The lefties have taken over the churches, the foundations, and the schools and colleges. At least we can thank God they they aren't too strong in the military.


9 posted on 11/23/2005 10:27:35 AM PST by expatpat
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To: Presbyterian Reporter
Church Leaders United Against War in Iraq: Statement Adopted in Berlin, Germany, February 5, 2003, Following a Consultation of Church Leaders from the U.S., Europe, and the Middle East

National Council of Churches.

10 posted on 11/23/2005 10:27:36 AM PST by Alia
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Worley responded: "We do not wish to defend the U.S. administration. We all elected the Democratic Party against the Republican Party. Rest assured that we will return to the U.S. in order to continue our activity for peace...

This group is clearly a bunch of islamofascist "lap dogs" and apologists. A disgrace even to the presbetarian denomination. I'm surprised jimmy carter didn't attend with them.

11 posted on 11/23/2005 10:30:15 AM PST by kimosabe31
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They're just practicing to be dhimmis when the time comes.


12 posted on 11/23/2005 10:36:37 AM PST by Captain Rhino (If you will just abandon logic, these things will make a lot more sense!)
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To: twigs

Yes; it is Presbyterian church USA. I was a member at a USA church in NJ and I left IT before I left NJ.

Now attending a PCA church here in South Carolina and the difference is immense.


13 posted on 11/23/2005 10:39:09 AM PST by Left Blue NJ for Red SC
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This bunch of peacenik pukes are probably already paying the jizya. I wonder how much loot this organization pays the Palestinians? Weren't they helping to fund "liberation" (i.e. communists) movements a few years ago?
14 posted on 11/23/2005 10:44:22 AM PST by attiladhun2 (evolution has both deified and degraded humanity)
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To: Left Blue NJ for Red SC

I discovered a PCA church in VA many years ago. Attending church and getting involved in a real Christian community has never been the same.


15 posted on 11/23/2005 11:04:32 AM PST by twigs
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If you'd like to be on this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.

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16 posted on 11/23/2005 11:07:06 AM PST by SJackson (People have learned from Gaza that resistance succeeds, not smart negotiators., Hassem Darwish)
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To: Alia

A nice review of the National Council of Churches, thanks to frontpagmag.com:
http://www.discoverthenetwork.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6916


17 posted on 11/23/2005 11:10:38 AM PST by VOA
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I'm sure John Knox would be proud.


18 posted on 11/23/2005 11:40:23 AM PST by FierceKulak
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Here is more on the history of Presbyterians visiting Hezbollah in an open letter to PCUSA leaders Kirkpatrick and Detterick

http://www.faithsforfairness.org/pdf/KirkpatrickaDeterick.pdf


19 posted on 11/23/2005 12:12:46 PM PST by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: No Blue States
I have no problem with that and I don't know the American left is getting its knickers in a knot over it. As far as I understand the US Constitution protects American citizens from unlawful interrogation and torture. Nothing in there about foreign combatants. Their ass is grass as far as I am concerned.
20 posted on 11/23/2005 1:00:54 PM PST by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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