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To: SouthernFreebird

"Sounds like bullchit to me, women know they need to go to a hospital for evidense to be collected."

Yes, they know that hospitals collect evidence, but a significant number of victims do not report the crime, particularly if it was someone they knew. I worked at a crisis center and dealt with more than a few women who just wanted to forget the whole thing, but still needed to be examined. They chose their own doctors.

"Your making excuses for forcing people to give the means for an abortion against their personal beliefs."

No one HAS to become a pharmacist. If you're a kosher Jew, don't take a job at pork factory. If you're a pacifist, don't join the army. If you're an islamo-nut who's offended by women's bodies, don't take a job as a cabana boy. And if you're against birth control, don't take a job that requires you to dispense it. People are always entitled to their personal belief systems, but they are NOT entitled to force others to conform to those beliefs. That's what liberals do.


90 posted on 11/13/2005 11:23:08 AM PST by MonaMars
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To: MonaMars
No one HAS to become a pharmacist. If you're a kosher Jew, don't take a job at pork factory. If you're a pacifist, don't join the army. If you're an islamo-nut who's offended by women's bodies, don't take a job as a cabana boy. And if you're against birth control, don't take a job that requires you to dispense it.

I would probably be right is saying that a huge percentage of the practicing pharmists entered the profession and got their degree/certification long before this question ever arose. A very weak argument at best.

People are always entitled to their personal belief systems, but they are NOT entitled to force others to conform to those beliefs. That's what liberals do.

Exactly what liberals do when they try to force a pharmist to dispence against their moral values. Especially so when the company tries to accomodate the 'wronged' individual and the remedy is rejected.

92 posted on 11/13/2005 12:48:08 PM PST by SCALEMAN (Pelosi is as empty as an Amish Phone Directory)
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To: MonaMars
People are always entitled to their personal belief systems, but they are NOT entitled to force others to conform to those beliefs. That's what liberals do.

Spoken by the person who wants to force another to contribute to the death of a child because of the liberal view that women are entitled to em.

93 posted on 11/13/2005 1:08:03 PM PST by SouthernFreebird
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To: MonaMars
No one HAS to become a pharmacist. If you're a kosher Jew, don't take a job at pork factory.

That's a false comparison for at least two reasons.

First, the vast majority of pharmacists got into the field before this issue came up, and now people like you want to come along and say, "My way or find a new career." That sure doesn't seem American to me; more like the stuff in Germany where they can send you to get a job as a prostitute if your real career is overmanned.

Second, we're not talking about mere job arrangements. Take the case of Illinois, where the Governor has forced pharmacists to fill these scrips and has promised to pull their licenses if they resist. Here's a guy telling private businesspeople what they will stock, who they will serve and how they will serve them, all in violation of the establishment and free exercise clauses. There's a lot at stake here.

A closer analogy would be a Hindu who buys a chicken farm, and five years later the state comes in and tells him he's going to raise 50 head of beef steers for slaughter a year and like it, or they'll close his chicken farm. Would you just say, "Well, he has to find a new career," or would you stand up for his rights?

People are always entitled to their personal belief systems, but they are NOT entitled to force others to conform to those beliefs. That's what liberals do.

That's what Rod Blagojevich here in Illinois did when he started forcing pharmacists to do this, and you're on his side of this issue.

I have nothing but sympathy for rape victims, but nobody's pain justifies the sort of fascism where a government comes in and tells people how to run their businesses and spiritual lives. Government intrusion wasn't at stake with Target, but it's at stake elsewhere, and Planned Parenthood would love to have the State forcing Target to do their will.

120 posted on 11/13/2005 7:19:00 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Howard Dean thinks I shot a man in Reno just to watch him die.)
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