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Has the Biblical Goliath Been Found?
IMRA ^ | November 10, 2005

Posted on 11/10/2005 4:37:28 AM PST by SJackson

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To: Dustbunny
Your right, this is nothing but the liberals/ communist subtle way of wiping GOD/Jesus out of our culture.
21 posted on 11/10/2005 5:36:03 AM PST by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: Prophet in the wilderness
Your right, this is nothing but the liberals/ communist subtle way of wiping GOD/Jesus out of our culture.

Uh, IMRA is a Jewish publication I think. The Jewish faith has never recognized Jesus as Messiah. This is nothing new. There's no ulterior motive IMHO.
22 posted on 11/10/2005 5:42:30 AM PST by loreldan (Lincoln, Reagan, & G. W. Bush - the cure for Democrat lunacy.)
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To: Dustbunny; Maury; Drawsing

>>>What's with this 'BCE' and 'CE' dating crap?
On second thought, it is most likely the Socialist/Communist/Liberals trying to wipe GOD and any reference to Jesus out of our culture.


I beleive the source of the article is in Israel. IMRA, Independent Media Review and Analysis, was founded in 1992, by Drs. Aaron and Joseph Lerner, as an ongoing analysis of developments in Arab-Israeli relations.
I'm going to assume that the Drs. Lerner are Jewish and therefore do not recognize Jesus as the Christ.


23 posted on 11/10/2005 5:43:41 AM PST by NC28203
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To: SJackson

I've always wondered if the Phillistines could have been refugees from the fighting at Troy. Trojans would have been Indo-European with an Aegean origin and could easily have migrated down the coast.

Archeology continues to find clues and proofs that ancient legends and stories are based on factual events whose memories were passed down from generation to generation.


24 posted on 11/10/2005 6:01:26 AM PST by wildbill
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To: Drawsing

That's exactly what it is - pure PC BS.


25 posted on 11/10/2005 6:04:21 AM PST by WorkingClassFilth (The problem with being a 'big tent' Party is that the clowns are seated with the paying customers.)
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To: Maury
What's with this 'BCE' and 'CE' dating crap?

Politically correct way of saying B.C. and A.D.

Now it is "Before the Common Era" and the "Common Era".

26 posted on 11/10/2005 6:06:50 AM PST by COEXERJ145 (http://www.navyfield.com)
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To: Maury

The use of "Before Common Era" and "Common Era" dating does not automatically mean that the person who chose to use it is anti-Christ or anti-religion.

The BC and AD dating system is too fuzzy for precise dating since no one knows for sure in which year Jesus was born or even the month and day.

It is also inaccurate to use AD for dates after Jesus birth but before his death. And for those who believe he never died, the term AD is completely meaningless in any case.


27 posted on 11/10/2005 6:07:08 AM PST by RHS in Fairfield
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To: Dustbunny

No Muslim dating is 600 yrs off. It is used to keep some Jewish folks from getting too upset.


28 posted on 11/10/2005 6:07:35 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: Drawsing
"I think its "before the common era" and "common era". It is an attempt to remove "Christ" as a pivotal historical event. The most "sophisticated" archaeologists always use this device don't ya know."

They claim that this method is used due to a flaw in the dating of the BC system.

Archaeologists claim that this system does not account for a few years, and that by adjusting the BC dating system Christ would actually have been born in 4 BC.

So, 4 BC is thought to be 1 CE.

All of that may be true, but they sure go all the way when it comes to ignoring Christ.
29 posted on 11/10/2005 6:12:09 AM PST by Preachin' (Enoch's testimony was that he pleased God: Why are we still here?)
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To: Maury

"What's with this 'BCE' and 'CE' dating crap?"

Interesting question. Given that the archaeologists in the story are from an Israeli University, would you expect them to refer to Jesus?

BCE and CE are used universally in that field, since not everyone who works in that field is a Christian. Amazing, huh?


30 posted on 11/10/2005 6:17:23 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: RHS in Fairfield

BC and AD are equivalent values to BCE and CE. There is no other reason to use them as a reference than to remove all religous connotations.


31 posted on 11/10/2005 6:18:34 AM PST by edpc
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To: RHS in Fairfield

yes BCE and BE now being used in my daughter's pulic charter military academy that is usually good about God and country.


32 posted on 11/10/2005 6:19:12 AM PST by awin
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To: edpc

"BC and AD are equivalent values to BCE and CE. There is no other reason to use them as a reference than to remove all religous connotations."

That's quite true, and that is precisely why it is done. In the example of this story, why would Jewish archaeologists refer to Christ in their dating. In the field of archaeology, BCE and CE are used exclusively, because it is a field with world-wide scholars.


Since Christianity is the religion of choice of only about 1/3 of the world's population, a religion-neutral dating system has been established by the archaeological community. It's not a plot. Not everyone is a Christian.


33 posted on 11/10/2005 6:27:12 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: Drawsing; Maury
I think its "before the common era" and "common era". It is an attempt to remove "Christ" as a pivotal historical event.

Plus them Jews have this wzcky objection to acknowledging Our Lord.

35 posted on 11/10/2005 6:27:48 AM PST by Oztrich Boy (Paging Nehemiah Scudder:the Crazy Years are peaking. America is ready for you.)
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To: SJackson; SunkenCiv; lupie; lightingguy

Very cool. Amazing; isn't it, how archeology keeps finding evidence that the Bible is true rather than the other way around.


36 posted on 11/10/2005 6:30:45 AM PST by agrace (Where were you when I founded the earth? Tell me if you know so much. Job 38:4)
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To: RHS in Fairfield

AD means a Latin phrase "Anno Domini" which somebody told me means "In the year of our Lord"....not "After Death".


37 posted on 11/10/2005 6:39:02 AM PST by Drawsing (The fool shows his annoyance at once. The prudent man overlooks an insult. (Proverbs 12:16))
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To: agrace

Amen


38 posted on 11/10/2005 6:40:26 AM PST by wallcrawlr (http://www.bionicear.com)
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To: MineralMan
You'd think that the christian variety of supernaturalist would be honored that the scientific community uses a version of their dating system rather than another of the thousands of arbitrary and temporary dating systems available.
39 posted on 11/10/2005 6:43:16 AM PST by ASA Vet (Those who know don't talk, those who talk don't know.)
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To: MineralMan
Interesting question. Given that the archaeologists in the story are from an Israeli University, would you expect them to refer to Jesus?

Since the research is done by an Israeli University, I'd say there's a good chance ther report was originally written in Hebrew. A good chance the dating followed the Hebrew calendar. If so, I wonder if dropping the Hebrew dating is anti-Jewish?

40 posted on 11/10/2005 6:44:57 AM PST by SJackson (People have learned from Gaza that resistance succeeds, not smart negotiators., Hassem Darwish)
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