Archaeologists Discover Ancient Church-(heh JC and Armagedon... are we having fun?)

ap ^ | 11.7.05 | na

[kenth]

What is odd are the ones who dispute the existence of Jesus, often citing a lack of historical documentation outside of religion, but have no problem believing in the Roman emporers who existed in the same time period.

[Unam Sanctam]

All that may be true, but as Scripture says, no man knows the hour, and we must be always ready like the wise virgins with their lamps filled with oil.

[Unam Sanctam]

Is there a translation of the mosaic inscription anywhere?

[Unam Sanctam]

There is complete continuity between the Church of the apostles and the early fathers and the Church post-Constantine, and in fact down to current day in the Church in communion with Peter's successor, Pope Benedict.

[Unam Sanctam]

Islam has no right to existence in this world and should be baned from this planet. Along with pestilence, disease and a raving bitch, Islam is an enemy of all mankind and should be eradicated immediately.

There is no moral right to embrace error, but there is no room for coercion of people's free conscience. Evangelization a la St. Francis is more what is called for. I really hate these blanket statements about killing all Moslems I am seeing more and more on Free Republic. I don't think anyone should be embracing the idea of genocide. Islam can be stopped without genocide.

[x5452]

Still you must realize that Muslim's holy book calls for killing of Jews and Christians. Can we hope for their success? I think at best we can pray they abandon their religion of hate.

[SunkenCiv]

another source (thanks spyone)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4411286.stm

earlier topic:

Ancient church uncovered in Megiddo Prison
Jerusalem Post | 11/5/5 | TIDHAR OFEK
Posted on 11/05/2005 3:38:44 PM PST by SmithL
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1516475/posts

similar, later FR topics:

Israeli Archaeologists Discover Roman-era Christian Building
Washington Post | 11/6/05 | Scott Wilson
Posted on 11/06/2005 1:22:28 PM PST by saquin
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1516876/posts

[tob2]

Perish the thought! Everything to them is Muslim. Not.

[Lewite]

There is no "J" in the Greek or Hebrew Scriptures. Go to bnaiavraham.net and read The Missing "J" Free and a great read.

[blam]

Archaeologists Unveil Ancient Church Site

[Pharmboy]

Israeli prisoners Rizlov Ramil, top, and Biton Maymon, bottom, clean
a section of a Christian mosaic floor dating to the third or fourth century A.D.,
in the compound of the Megiddo prison in northern Israel.

[SunkenCiv]

this is (I believe) the first one:

Ancient church uncovered in Megiddo Prison
Jerusalem Post | 11/5/5 | TIDHAR OFEK
Posted on 11/05/2005 3:38:44 PM PST by SmithL
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1516475/posts

[afraidfortherepublic]

Ahem. The Catholilc church and Christianity were one and the same until the schisms and later the Reformation.

[Convert from ECUSA]

Ping!

[COBOL2Java]

He said there were no churches until Emperor Constantine legalized Christianity in the fourth century.

Obviously there's no accuracy in that statement... Probably should have said there were no Catholic churches until Constantine took over...

There's a difference? What is that, pray tell?

[Liberty Valance]

Yes. Here's the translation from last night... ------------------------------------------------ Here's what it says, first using the Greek characters themselves, then a transliteration using English characters, then two translations into English, changing the word order into normal English for the second. (BTW, the reason for the parentheses is that I'm filling in the missing letters on those abbreviations of sacred names.): ΠΡΟΣΗΝΙΚΕΝ ΑΚΕΠΤΟΥΣ Η ΦΙΛΟΘΕΟΣ ΤΗΝ ΤΡΑΠΕ- ΖΑΝ Θ(Ε)Ω Ι(ΗΣΟ)Υ Χ(ΡΙΣΤ)Ω ΜΝΗΜΟΣΥΝΟΝ PROSĒNIKEN AKEPTOUS HĒ PHILOTHEOS TĒN TRAPE- ZAN TH(E)Ō I(ĒSO)U CH(RIST)Ō MNĒMOSYNON OFFERED AKEPTOUS THE GOD-LOVER THE TAB- LE TO THE G(O)D J(ESU)S CH(RIS)T MEMORIAL Akeptous the God-lover offered the table to the God Jesus Christ as a memorial 27 posted on 11/06/2005 9:47:56 PM CST by Charles Henrickson (Lutheran pastor and Ph.D. student in Biblical Studies) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies | Report Abuse ]

[Iscool]

The Catholilc church and Christianity were one and the same until the schisms and later the Reformation.

The Catholilc church and the Baptist church and the Presbyterians church and Christianity were one and the same until the schisms and later the Reformation.

That's what I'm saying...The Catholic church, the Baptist church, the the Presbyterian church etc. all had the same roots...

When Constantine declared a state religion, one group went that way and the others went another...The schisms apparently started before Constantine...So if this building is older than Constantine's reign, it's hard to say who it belonged to...

[NYer]

The Catholic church, the Baptist church, the the Presbyterian church etc. all had the same roots...

Only one church goes back to Jesus Christ.

What is the History of Your Church?

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Church	Year Established	Founder	Where Established
Catholic	33	Jesus Christ	Jerusalem
Orthodox	1054	Schismatic Catholic Bishops	Constantinople
Lutheran	1517	Martin Luther	Germany
Anabaptist	1521	Nicholas Storch & Thomas Munzer	Germany
Anglican	1534	Henry VII	England
Mennonites	1536	Menno Simons	Switzerland
Calvinist	1555	John Calvin	Switzerland
Presbyterian	1560	John Knox	Scotland
Congregational	1582	Robert Brown	Holland
Baptist	1609	John Smyth	Amsterdam
Dutch Reformed	1628	Michaelis Jones	New York
Congregationalist	1648	Pilgrims and Puritans	Massachusetts
Quakers	1649	George Fox	England
Amish	1693	Jacob Amman	France
Freemasons	1717	Masons from four lodges	London
Methodist	1739	John & Charles Wesley	England
Unitarian	1774	Theophilus Lindey	London
Methodist Episcopal	1784	60 Preachers	Baltimore, MD
Episcopalian	1789	Samuel Seabury	American Colonies
United Brethren	1800	Philip Otterbein & Martin Boehn	Maryland
Disciples of Christ	1827	Thomas & Alexander Campbell	Kentucky
Mormon	1830	Joseph Smith	New York
Methodist Protestant	1830	Methodist	United States
Church of Christ	1836	Warren Stone & Alexander Campbell	Kentucky
Seventh Day Adventist	1844	Ellen White	Washington, NH
Christadelphian (Brethren of Christ	1844	John Thomas	Richmond, VA
Salvation Army	1865	William Booth	London
Holiness	1867	Methodist	United States
Jehovah's Witnesses	1874	Charles Taze Russell	Pennsylvania
Christian Science	1879	Mary Baker Eddy	Boston
Church of God in Christ	1895	Various churches of God	Arkansas
Church of Nazarene	c. 1850-1900	Various religious bodies	Pilot Point, TX
Pentecstal	1901	Charles F. Parkham	Topeka, KS
Aglipayan	1902	Gregorio Aglipay	Philippines
Assemblies of God	1914	Pentecostalism	Hot Springs, AZ
Iglesia ni Christo	1914	Felix Manalo	Philippines
Four-square Gospel	1917	Aimee Semple McPherson	Los Angeles, CA
United Church of Christ	1961	Reformed and Congregationalist	Philadelphia, PA
Calvary Chapel	1965	Chuck Smith	Costa Mesa, CA
United Methodist	1968	Methodist and United Brethren	Dallas, TX
Born-again	c. 1970s	Various religious bodies	United States
Harvest Christian	1972	Greg Laurie	Riverside, CA
Saddleback	1982	Rick Warren	California
Non-denominational	c. 1990s	various	United States

Source: Scripture Catholic

[COBOL2Java]

Great table! Thanks, that's a keeper!

[Iscool]

So everyone was a Catholic til 1054, eh??? Right on...

Ha...That's pretty lame...There's not a single group on your list that doesn't have it's roots in 33 A.D except possibly the Catholic church...

Jesus said:
Mat 23:9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.

Seems unlikely that church leaders in 34 A.D. would have been called 'Father' in view of the admonition from Jesus...