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College Bans Dormitory Bible Studies
NewsMax ^ | 2 Nov 05 | NewsMax

Posted on 11/02/2005 11:47:38 AM PST by NavVet

In a shameful attack on freedom of religion, the University of Wisconsin–Eau Claire (UWEC) has banned resident assistants (RAs) from leading Bible studies in their own dormitories.

The university claims the ban is necessary because some students might not feel RAs who lead Bible studies are "approachable.”

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: antichristian; biblestudy; bigots; christian; christianstudents; christophobia; discrimination; firstamendment; freedomofspeech; highereducation; leftismoncampus; religon
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To: little jeremiah
I've got take some time off from FR. I just cannot believe this. I mean, it's not that I doubt the veracity of the above article (what I've read of it).

Which is why you MUST stay and continue the fight against the left!

41 posted on 11/02/2005 12:04:17 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: NavVet

They will force Resident Assistants to hold back alley Bible studies.


42 posted on 11/02/2005 12:04:34 PM PST by Tai_Chung
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To: CSM
Something about just getting out of the Army sorta made me approachable to the Freshmen on the floor....

Well, someone has to by the beer.

43 posted on 11/02/2005 12:06:07 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: savedbygrace

"RAs are employees? Man, things sure have changed in the 30+ years since I went to college.

Are you sure about this?"

Yep. They're employees. They receive compensation, in the form of free rent. They have job descriptions, duties, and responsibilities assigned to them by their employer.

Frankly, as I've said, I see no reason they shouldn't lead Bible studies. My point was that the New Smacks headline was incorret. The school is not banning Bible Study in the dorm at all. It is banning some of its employees from leading Bible Studies in their dorm. Big difference.


44 posted on 11/02/2005 12:07:17 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: savedbygrace

Yeah, Let's ban Bible Studies so we can go watch the Hard Core Live Sex shows on Campus Cable TV! Makes a lot of sense to me!


45 posted on 11/02/2005 12:07:37 PM PST by Bushman2 (Keep Texas a RED State, THANKS TO TOM DELAY)
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To: MineralMan
"Misleading title."

No it's not.
I worked for the university when I went to college. I ran the concession area in our basketball arena.

Should I have not been allowed to run a bible study on my dorm floor?

This is outrageous. Butts need to kicked and names taken.
46 posted on 11/02/2005 12:07:59 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland (Never bring a knife to a gun fight, or a Democrat to do serious work...)
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To: tutstar

Got it! My ping is up the thread.

But thanks. This is really a bad one. Universities are cesspools. Porn? Great. Gay everything all the time? Fine! Womyns' studies that are nothing but lesbian ranting and porn? Awesome. Communism and socialism as Gospel? Very good. Porn stars and prostitutes leading workshops? Covered by the consitution.

But Bible studies by employees, on their own time in their private quarters? VERBOTEN!


47 posted on 11/02/2005 12:08:02 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: yankeedame
Or Wiccan.

Yes, that too.

48 posted on 11/02/2005 12:08:50 PM PST by Mark17
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To: conserv13

It's an assault on a perso being allowed to do things which might make them "unapproachable" if they are a public employee.

And what do the powers-that-be think makes a person unapproachable? The only thing they seem to have banned is overt acts of christianity.

If they force female RAs to wear Burkas because otherwise muslims might find them unapproachable, I'll believe this isn't an assault on christianity.


49 posted on 11/02/2005 12:08:52 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: MineralMan
My only comment was that the headline was misleading

LOL, Bullet | Messenger > MineralMan
50 posted on 11/02/2005 12:08:54 PM PST by andyk (Go Matt Kenseth!)
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To: MineralMan

So what if it's an RA?? They have off duty time just like everyone else.


51 posted on 11/02/2005 12:09:11 PM PST by Centurion2000 ((Aubrey, Tx) --- America, we get the best government corporations can buy.)
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To: NavVet

I thought this was supposed to be a free country.


52 posted on 11/02/2005 12:10:15 PM PST by hyperkitty (The ability to speak does not make you intelligent, now get out of here.)
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To: MineralMan

If you are going to restrict what the RA's do behind closed doors in their own rooms by calling them employees, then they had better not be working on political campaigns, discussing religion on the phone with family members etc. Basically, anything that the president of the university couldn't do in a room full of reporters would be off limits.

I think the distinction you are missing is that being an RA is not a full time job, and I think most people would agree that what an RA does with other consenting adults, on his or her own time, in his own living room, should be no concern of the university.


53 posted on 11/02/2005 12:10:40 PM PST by NavVet (“Benedict Arnold was wounded in battle fighting for America, but no one remembers him for that.”)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
I'm sure if the RA was Jewish or Muslim the university would not allow him to lead a Torah study or a Koran study in the dorm, for the same reason.

You are a Christian by what you believe and how you act, not by reading a book to a group.

54 posted on 11/02/2005 12:12:14 PM PST by conserv13
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To: wmichgrad

Even if they are employees, why don't they get the guaranteed right of freedom of religion? Or is that just for Muslims now?


55 posted on 11/02/2005 12:12:14 PM PST by mlc9852
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To: frogjerk
So they can prevent people from heading a Bible study on their own time?

When I was an RA in college (public university), we had similar rules... one is, more or less, "on call" 24/7 for emergencies, and my office (next to my dorm room), was considered public space, and I was awakened in the middle of the night a couple times with emergencies. I never thought of leading a prayer meeting, and I guess I would have done that someplace else. Students were only proscribed from using alcohol and other drugs, but otherwise no rules on what went on in their dorm rooms.

Considering the large Jewish population there, "Bible studies" as such never came up ... but neither did "Jewish studies" or any other explicitly religious gathering. There was a yoga class in the downstairs common area. Churches, temples, and even a mosque were within walking distance of campus, so that was probably why..

56 posted on 11/02/2005 12:12:27 PM PST by blaise
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To: NavVet
The university claims the ban is necessary because some students might not feel RAs who lead Bible studies are "approachable.”

Yeah, right. And if the RA was leading a "gay/lesbian/bi/questioning/transgender support group," any student that had a problem with that would be told to grow up and stop being "hateful."

57 posted on 11/02/2005 12:12:40 PM PST by teawithmisswilliams (Question Diversity)
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To: MineralMan
Yawn, so does that mean this college could ban openly gays who have sex with multiple people in their dorm room because students might not find them approachable? Oh no, that would be discriminatory.

I just came out of a dorm two years ago and I literally saw my TA only when we had mandatory floor meetings. This whole situation is stupid.
58 posted on 11/02/2005 12:12:52 PM PST by bahblahbah
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To: Mayflower Sister
This is beyond disgusting. Absolutely over the limit.

What happened to the Democrats scream to the Right to privacy. Oh yea, that's only if you want to murder your unborn child.

UNTRUE! It applies to sodomy as well!

59 posted on 11/02/2005 12:13:10 PM PST by gitmo (Thanks, Mel. I needed that.)
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To: Centurion2000

So what, indeed. I don't care if the RAs lead Bible studies, for pete's sake. I do care that the headline on this article intimates that no Bible Studies are allowed in the dorm. Not so.

Since many folks read only the headline....

As far as I'm concerned RAs can do whatever the heck they want. I moved out of the dorm after the first semester, mainly due to a RA Nazi who kept messing with my stuff during "unannounced inspections."

I DO NOT CARE IF RAs LEAD BIBLE STUDIES!!!


60 posted on 11/02/2005 12:13:12 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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