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Seem to be a lot of refinery shutdowns these days. As a wise man once said, "It's hot out there -- and the weather is warm too..."

The endless supply of dollars flooding the world markets simply means that while last week 42 of the pieces of paper wampum could be exchanged for a barrel of oil, this week will require a few more.

The entire economic structure of the West being slowly melted before our very eyes.

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1 posted on 08/08/2005 7:38:48 PM PDT by Jomini
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To: Jomini

Evidently the market is not impressed with the Energy Bill winding its way to the President's desk. Coincidence?


2 posted on 08/08/2005 7:42:35 PM PDT by gpapa (Voice of reason from the left coast)
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To: Jomini

Oh i dont think its that ominous.

Plenty of hedge funds are making record profits.

New Cars are being build that are more fuel efficent driving another buying surge. People are selling their SUV's for compact cr.p we got in 70. Just another cycle, first oil co's get money, then car manuf. adjust by building compact death traps.

Plus its a nice back drop for pushing for new exploration for the oil co's...

It's all good volatility brings profits...


3 posted on 08/08/2005 7:43:22 PM PDT by Flavius ("... we should reconnoitre assiduosly... " Vegetius)
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"The entire economic structure of the West being slowly melted before our very eyes."

US Dollar and Bush mega deficits, and the debt already incurred without nary a hope of being resolved.

Other factors too, including hedge funds deciding oil a good investment, a self-serving prophecy.

Energy bill a joke. Four years ago Bush gave some hope with the "hydrogen economy." Energy bill? A lot of oil company tax breaks without limits that the breaks need to be targeted to investments for the future.

Republican borrow and spend policy chickens coming home to the roost.


4 posted on 08/08/2005 7:50:30 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Jomini

Anyone but me wonder about this one. Refineries turn crude into gas(and other things). Refinery shuts down, crude goes up. Shouldn't it be gas goes up (less being produced) and crude goes down (less being refined)?


8 posted on 08/08/2005 9:12:30 PM PDT by CA_soon_gone
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Something should be done with the people "trading" in the oil market. These a** holes are now using any excuse no matter how worthless it is, to increase the price of oil. This refinery fire in Philadelphia should have zero real effect on the market but the a** holes traders are making such a big deal of it to make more profits. We consume 20 millions barrel of oil a day and this refinery only refine 200,000 barrel a day, i.e. 1% of our usage. Something must be done with them.
9 posted on 08/08/2005 9:59:40 PM PDT by jveritas (The left cannot win a national election ever again and never will the Buchananites and 3rd parties)
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To: Jomini
Some updates:

Oil prices continue at record highs on Saudi security fears, supply worries (Forbes)

Oil Rises Above $64 on Refinery Outages, Saudi, Iran Concerns (Bloomberg)

Fuel costs stagger business (Union-Tribune)

Oil price close to $65 mark (The Financial Times)

15 posted on 08/09/2005 2:53:54 AM PDT by M. Espinola ( Freedom is never free)
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To: Jomini

Rubbish


17 posted on 08/10/2005 4:16:13 PM PDT by atlanta67
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