To: golch1979
So, I guess my position should be based on the Bible and not on any fundamental rights Israelis have today? Tell me, I'm confused.You sure are--just like everyone else who thinks that "fundamental rights" exist independently of the Biblical G-d. So where do the come from? That mythical "social contract" that Locke and Jefferson and all those "18th century" rationalists were so fond of pretending existed (even though they knew it didn't)?
I'm afraid that the notion of rights divorced from ultimate meaning is not at all "self-evident," whatever the Declaration of Independence says.
To: Zionist Conspirator
That's your opinion. I've heard all the first truths arguments from Hadley Arkes on down. Whether you think these fundamental rights descend from a higher power or not is not really relevant. From your perspective it has to come from a Biblical G-d. From my perspective it comes with the inherent dignity of being a human being. Once you prescribe to the notion that these fundamental rights come from a Biblical perspective then you have nuts like muslims laying claim to their notion of rights from their god. That doesn't work. We're right and they're not. I don't want to have a war of religions. As wrong as their religion is they can still rely on it if it's a contest. We are human beings, the dignity in that is enough.
128 posted on
08/07/2005 1:01:00 AM PDT by
golch1979
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