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The London Bombings: How the U.S. and the U.K. Should Respond (Heritage Foundation)
Heritage Foundation ^ | 7/21/2005 | Nile Gardiner, Ph.D., and James Phillips

Posted on 07/21/2005 12:35:51 PM PDT by Pyro7480

The London Bombings: How the U.S. and the U.K. Should Respond

by Nile Gardiner, Ph.D., and James Phillips

July 21, 2005 (link to PDF)

Thursday, July 7, 2005, will go down as one of the darkest days in British history since the Second World War. At least 55 people were killed in a series of bomb blasts in the heart of London, and several hundred were injured.

The July 7 attacks were followed by a series of near simultaneous minor bomb blasts on public transportation in the British capital, involving detonators, on July 21. Although there were no fatalities, the attacks caused widespread disruption to the London subway network....

What the U.K. and the U.S. Should Do

In response to the London bombings, the British government should:

-Strengthen British anti-terrorism laws.... Greater powers should be given to British authorities to detain sus­pected terrorists, and the U.K. should immedi­ately withdraw from provisions in the European Convention on Human Rights that might act as a barrier to effective anti-terrorism measures. The British government should strongly consider implementing counterterror­ist laws pioneered by the United States in the PATRIOT Act.

-Follow a policy of zero tolerance for Islamic extremism. Britain... must no longer tolerate the Islamic militancy in its midst, which seeks to destroy British society and impose a Muslim state....

-Reverse Britain’s defense cuts....

The governments of the United States and the United Kingdom should jointly:

-Coordinate London and Washington’s Anti-Terrorist Lists. There is a striking discrepancy between the U.S. and U.K. lists of interna­tional terrorist organizations. (See Appendix 1.)

Stay the course in Iraq....

Press Pakistan to root out Islamic extremist groups....

Take the war to the terrorists....

(Excerpt) Read more at heritage.org ...


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 7july; bombings; july7; london; londonattacked; terror; terrorism; terrorist; tube; unitedkingdom; unitedstates
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To: Pyro7480

I am in favor of sending strongly worded letters telling the Muslims how much they have hurt our feelings and how we really didn't mean to hurt their feelings so much that they want to blow us up.


21 posted on 07/21/2005 1:09:41 PM PDT by FreedomSurge
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To: swarthyguy

Well, from what I can tell, Heritage advocates reducing our dependence on Saudi oil, and keeping pressure on the Saudis.


22 posted on 07/21/2005 1:13:36 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("All my own perception of beauty both in majesty and simplicity is founded upon Our Lady." - Tolkien)
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To: Pyro7480

That's all well and good, but how many have to die in order for us to do something serious. Rhetorical question, not aimed at you.


23 posted on 07/21/2005 1:15:22 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: FreedomSurge

"I am in favor of sending strongly worded letters telling the Muslims how much they have hurt our feelings and how we really didn't mean to hurt their feelings so much that they want to blow us up."

Whaaa??? Are you insane?

Halmark Friends cards are more appropriate in times of tension!


24 posted on 07/21/2005 1:21:34 PM PDT by FastCoyote
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To: swarthyguy

Well, I am believer in the principle of proportion. We need to stop the political correctness, and to a better job of monitoring the Muslims in our midst, "extremist" or not. We also need to stop an out-of-control legal system from being lenient on these thugs. We need to stop anyone who tries to tie our hands from defunding the Saudis, and/or stopping the money flow to and from that country. However, I sincerely disagree with anyone who calls for indiscriminately killing Muslims (I'm not aiming this comment at you). We need to act like surgeons, not like a caveman with a club.


25 posted on 07/21/2005 1:22:34 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("All my own perception of beauty both in majesty and simplicity is founded upon Our Lady." - Tolkien)
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To: Pyro7480

Would it be indiscriminate to kill Imams who preach death to the US?


26 posted on 07/21/2005 1:24:02 PM PDT by FreedomSurge
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To: FreedomSurge

As a general principle, no.


27 posted on 07/21/2005 1:27:47 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("All my own perception of beauty both in majesty and simplicity is founded upon Our Lady." - Tolkien)
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To: Pyro7480

DO they suggest closing Any mosque that refuses to be monitored? To those who believe such would prove unconstitutional in America -- I ve read too many credible
reports ofAmerican churches being subjected to searches because some disaffected leftist reported they had preached against homosexuals--or against Abortion.Or lest we forget the harrassment of Jerry Falwell by those Infidels who suggested he violated the Law by suggestions that George W.Bush ought be reelected.IF we already monitor the Christians -- Why do we support Islam- and not treat the mosque like we do Christian churches?


28 posted on 07/21/2005 1:32:15 PM PDT by StonyBurk
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To: Pyro7480
"As a general principle, no."

You will dedicate the US to fighting an asymetric war for the next 100+ years. I am not sure that is the proper course.

29 posted on 07/21/2005 1:38:32 PM PDT by FreedomSurge
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To: FreedomSurge

Regardless if you maintain the status quo, or "MOAB/nuke the bastards," a war for that long is inevitable. The Muslims are literally picking up where they left off, after their "high water mark" before the battles for Vienna and Lepanto.


30 posted on 07/21/2005 1:41:45 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("All my own perception of beauty both in majesty and simplicity is founded upon Our Lady." - Tolkien)
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To: coconutt2000

" While they're at it, they could standardize their spelling."

'Standardize'?. You mean 'Standardise'.

The things you do with my language. ;)


31 posted on 07/21/2005 1:57:15 PM PDT by Brit_Guy
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To: Brit_Guy

LOL


32 posted on 07/21/2005 1:57:40 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("All my own perception of beauty both in majesty and simplicity is founded upon Our Lady." - Tolkien)
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To: Pyro7480

START KICKING IN MUSLIM DOORS!!! All the bombers/terrorists are Muslims. It has nothing to do with "race," that a left wing canard. The only question is one of distinguishing among Muslims. There are the bad Muslims, the Muslims who do not help against the bad Muslims and the good Muslims. The key is identifying the bad Muslims. No race, just bad guys.


33 posted on 07/21/2005 2:00:37 PM PDT by Tacis ("Democrats - The Party of Traitors, Treachery and Treason!")
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To: tobyhill

MOAB...how about a mushroom cloud?!


34 posted on 07/21/2005 2:02:48 PM PDT by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: Pyro7480

The Heritage proposal is ok as far as it goes. However, Europe laid the basis for its current wave of Muslim terror by looking the other way (and worse) while Muslim terrorists were perfecting techniques, strategies and tactics on the Jews of Israel. There will be no end to Muslim terrorism until there is unqualified recognition by governments of the West that terrorism is terrorism. There can be no special exemption for killing Jews, a few tens at a time, every now and again -- in Israel, or anywhere else. Any response to Muslim terrorism that does not accept this simple fact is an inadequate respone and will ultimately fail.


35 posted on 07/21/2005 2:20:34 PM PDT by Truthfairy (People have the governments they deserve.)
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To: Pyro7480

I don't beleive in "MOAB/nuke the bastards," I believe in engaging in asymetrical warfare in return. It is the only way to teach the Muslims to behave. I believe an Imam who preaches death to the West is a combatant and needs to be treated as such. The result of treating terrorism as a law enforcement matter, results in unnecessary attacks on the west.


36 posted on 07/21/2005 2:44:07 PM PDT by FreedomSurge
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To: Pyro7480

We need to understand why they hate us, and then everything will be copacetic!


37 posted on 07/21/2005 2:47:42 PM PDT by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
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To: FreedomSurge
The most important thing after any muslim terrorist attack is to make sure you dont blame muslims just ask the Brits. After the first attack the medias main thing was to say dont blame muslims,dont take it out on Muslims, what a crock of crap.
38 posted on 07/21/2005 2:52:13 PM PDT by badgerbengal (close the border and open fire.)
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To: FreedomSurge
I don't beleive in "MOAB/nuke the bastards," I believe in engaging in asymetrical warfare in return. It is the only way to teach the Muslims to behave

Since they (Hopefully) don't have nukes and don't have MOABs (we don't either BTW) that would be asymmetrical warfare.

39 posted on 07/21/2005 2:54:45 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: El Gato
Asymmetrical warfare is terrorists fighting armies and armies fighting terrorists. I am in favor of terrorizing terrorists and their infrastructure and sub culture.
40 posted on 07/21/2005 2:59:34 PM PDT by FreedomSurge
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