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Bush alters line on leak
Pittsburgh Post Gazette ^ | July 19, 2005 | Ann McFeatters, Post-Gazette National Bureau

Posted on 07/19/2005 4:43:20 AM PDT by Ramcat

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To: free119
You are right that many high ranking democrats were complicit in exaggerating the non-threat that Saddam's regime posed to the US.

The point is, is that you admit that high ranking members of both parties agree in principle on important issues relevant to the security of the United States, yet reject their conclusions. Therefore, it demonstrates that you base your opinions on conjecture.

That's fine and dandy - everyone has a right to free speech in a public place. However, (1) you don't have a right to anyone listening, and (2) you don't have a right to espouse such positions on private property (FR's servers).

You flatter yourself that you have anything to say here. If you had made intelligent comments based on reputable facts that could be argued to support your position, you would, at least, have entertainment value.

121 posted on 07/19/2005 10:53:26 AM PDT by lemura
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To: Ramcat

Click here: Daily Kos: Don't Forget! Many, many other agents outed [UPDATE: BJA on MSNBC!]


123 posted on 07/19/2005 11:15:15 AM PDT by Mr. Wright
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To: Ramcat

I see the headlines, but I don't read the columns. ...don't read People Magazine, either. Is our government becoming a stage for a chick flick?


124 posted on 07/19/2005 12:07:43 PM PDT by familyop ("Let us try" sounds better, don't you think? "Essayons" is so...Latin.)
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To: The Old Hoosier

What did Bush say?
Check this out.
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/7/18/224504.shtml


125 posted on 07/19/2005 12:39:00 PM PDT by Ramcat (Thank You American Veterans)
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To: eddie65

"Isn't the issue that first Bush said anyone "involved" would be dealt with, and now he's changed the criteria to "committed a crime"?"

NO

Read this please.
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/7/18/224504.shtml


126 posted on 07/19/2005 12:42:35 PM PDT by Ramcat (Thank You American Veterans)
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To: free119
I don't think either George Bush nor Hussein deserve any criticism---they know darn well what they have done. What they deserve is a jail with fat iron bars and a ration of water and bread every day. As do a number of other people.

Do you see a moral difference in the policies of killing between Bush and Hussein? What exactly is it that you can compare the two on in order to derive a conviction on both? From reading your post it sounds as if you think they are both morally evil.

127 posted on 07/19/2005 1:09:19 PM PDT by m1-lightning (God, Guns, and Country!)
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To: Ramcat

Conyers organizing online against Rove/Bush:


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1446202/posts


128 posted on 07/19/2005 1:47:27 PM PDT by marylandrepub1 (Liberals outlaw God believing that 'they' are the gods and can create Heaven on Earth)
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To: OXENinFLA

Hey oxen,

Help me out with a link please?

Thanks,

Darryl


129 posted on 07/19/2005 2:08:06 PM PDT by 728b (Never cry over something that can not cry over you.)
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To: marylandrepub1
"Conyers organizing online against Rove/Bush: "

Shamefully, many of Conyer's constituents still believe that professional wrestling is real.
130 posted on 07/19/2005 2:20:46 PM PDT by Ramcat (Thank You American Veterans)
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To: alnick
Ah man! I didn't get the chance to argue with the hate-Bush liberal who was posing as a moderate. I saw his reply that "violating the law" was like a speeding ticket while a "crime" deserved jail time. I wanted to post the definition of "crime" for him to see how he could spin out of that one.

crime ( P ) Pronunciation Key (krm) n. An act committed or omitted in violation of a law forbidding or commanding it and for which punishment is imposed upon conviction. Unlawful activity: statistics relating to violent crime. A serious offense, especially one in violation of morality. An unjust, senseless, or disgraceful act or condition: It's a crime to squander our country's natural resources.

131 posted on 07/19/2005 2:31:00 PM PDT by m1-lightning (God, Guns, and Country!)
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To: Dominic Harr

Liberals should be allowed on this website. It does get monotonous singing to the choir. It would be nice if there was a single forum on FR where non-members could post so we could argue with them. Unfortunately I end up going to other websites to do so. I love getting them riled up to the point where they just start posting mad blabber. It shows which ones are the emotional bandwagon fad libs and which ones honestly believe in the crap they throw up.


132 posted on 07/19/2005 2:44:04 PM PDT by m1-lightning (God, Guns, and Country!)
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To: eddie65

"Isn't the issue that first Bush said anyone "involved" would be dealt with, and now he's changed the criteria to "committed a crime"?"

It's not a CHANGE in criteria, it's a clarification.

He never said what "dealt with" meant.

Clearly if someone committed a crime, then "deal with" should mean something different than if they didn't.


133 posted on 07/19/2005 3:37:46 PM PDT by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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To: Jhensy
I asked him/her/them the questions so the psychotic answers could be taken apart.

Hey, free119 terrorists - you are truly a schizophrenic piece of work!

Well, here are a few of his gems of wisdom, just for posterity:

The terrorists attacks were, of course, just that: ruthless, murderous attacks on mostly innocent people.

Oh, MOSTLY innocent people. So, in your fake humble opinion, some of them deserved to be mercilessly slaughtered by terrorists.

However, it is important to realize who did it and for what reasons.

I asked him what were the causes of terrorism. He never did get around to revealing what they were. He never mentioned the Koran, either.

I don't think my personal point of view is very interesting, and certainly not relevant.

If it's not relevant, you certainly place a great deal of faith in it. Oh, I get it! All this steaming pile isn't your opinion, it's TRUTH with a capital T!

I can answer your questions anyway, but I don't feel they have any significant meaning for the things being discussed (here and elsewhere in this forum).

Here is a shining example of real psychosis (Howeird, is this you?). His opinion is worthless, he admits it, but at the same time has full faith in his worthless opinion.

Yes, I am glad that Saddam is removed from power, although I certainly am not glad about any persons death, including his sons.

A very ancient, very wise book states that even saints are happy when poisonous snakes and scorpions are killed, in reference to an evil tyrant being killed. All upright people in the world were very happy when Saddams' evil sons were removed forcibly from mother earth. The fact that you want them to live shows your total lack of moral compass.

I would rather have seen them held responsible for their deeds.

Don't worry your pretty little head, they are being held responsible as we speak.

If the Iraqi people now have a system of government they can choose for themselves remains to be seen.

Well, when Saddam was in power, they could vote, but it had to be for him alone. Now they have choices! Plus, under Saddam, anyone who didn't vote was punished severely. No one is punished now for not voting! Note the difference?

Currently, many of them don't even have the minimum security and living conditions that are needed to exercise any kind of freedom.

Since under Saddam's rule, people were raped, fed into shredders, fed to dogs and wild animals, tortured in innumerable ways, as well as not having many of the basic necessities of a life of poverty, any sane person (including the vast majority of the actual Iraqies) feel their life vastly improved. The fact that you don't see the improvement shows that you have lost your mind.

Of course Saddam killed a lot of people, including Iraqis. I don't just mean any he killed personally, but particularly those he killed by setting the policies and giving the initial orders to do so.

How do you know he didn't kill any personally, just as an aside?

As did George Bush Sr, Bill Clinton and George W. Bush, in that (chronological) order.

See what he's saying, O lurkers? He's saying that GWB is just as bad a murderer as Saddam. Liberalism is a mental illness, and the farther left, the worse the mental disease.

All of this just being my personal opinion, only offered because you asked for it, and of no particular relevance to anything.

If you really think your opinion has no relevance, GIVE IT UP and believe in truth instead of lies. (Moderator, I hope you don't mind that I quoted the troll, I just had to tear apart some of his insanity.)

134 posted on 07/19/2005 3:39:41 PM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
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To: little jeremiah

Free119 terrorists, if you're still reading, I have another question for you, although you can't tell us the answer.

You are sad that Saddam's evil sons were justly killed.

Are you also sad that millions of unborn babies are mercilessly killed? Or is that okay with you?


135 posted on 07/19/2005 3:45:47 PM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
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To: 728b

What link do you need?


136 posted on 07/19/2005 5:48:08 PM PDT by OXENinFLA
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