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After 2,600 Years, The World Gains Fourth Poem By Sappho
The Guardian (UK) ^ | 6-24-2005 | John Ezard

Posted on 06/25/2005 6:38:31 PM PDT by blam

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To: Hank Rearden

They did! The Library of Alexandria had her full collection of works, but the Library was destroyed-first in a fire set during (if a remember right) Octavius' campaign to become emperor of Rome. The rest was destroyed when Rome fell, and Egypt was taken over by early Christians, and then by Muslims, neither of whom really cared about preserving pagan works of antiquity.


21 posted on 06/25/2005 8:09:30 PM PDT by marsh_of_mists
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

Her fame is based on the fact that ancient Greek and Roman writers, who did have access to her work, thought she was one of the greatest poets in history.


22 posted on 06/25/2005 8:10:50 PM PDT by marsh_of_mists
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To: blam

And finally, to address this nonsense about Sappho creating "lesbianism" and whatnot, it's based on the fact that she was the teacher or mistress of a group of young women, in much the same way as Socrates was the teacher and master of a group of young men. This does not necessarily mean she engaged in sexual relationships with women (and in fact she was married). Nonetheless, this idea has been propigated for several centuries now-hence the origin of the word "lesbian".


23 posted on 06/25/2005 8:14:30 PM PDT by marsh_of_mists
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To: Hank Rearden

Bravo, bravo!!


24 posted on 06/25/2005 8:15:54 PM PDT by apackof2 (In my simple way, I guess you could say I'm living in the BIG TIME)
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To: marsh_of_mists
They did! The Library of Alexandria had her full collection of works, but the Library was destroyed-first in a fire set during (if a remember right) Octavius' campaign to become emperor of Rome. The rest was destroyed when Rome fell, and Egypt was taken over by early Christians, and then by Muslims, neither of whom really cared about preserving pagan works of antiquity.

And so the bitter lesson about the need for offsite backups was learned early on.

25 posted on 06/25/2005 8:19:09 PM PDT by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: blam; FairOpinion; Ernest_at_the_Beach; StayAt HomeMother; SunkenCiv; 24Karet; 3AngelaD; ...
Please FREEPMAIL me if you want on, off, or alter the "Gods, Graves, Glyphs"

I will ping the GGG list until July 2, 2005, during SunkenCiv's temporary absence from the board.

If you see articles appropriate for the GGG ping list, please ping me.


26 posted on 06/25/2005 8:41:30 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: blam
Oh baby, baby
Oh baby, baby Oh baby, baby
How was I supposed to know
That something wasn't right here
Oh baby baby
I shouldn't have let you go
And now you're out of sight, yeah
Show me, how you want it to be
Tell me baby
'Cause I need to know now what we've got

[CHORUS:]
My loneliness is killing me
I must confess, I still believe
When I'm not with you I lose my mind
Give me a sign
Hit me baby one more time

Oh baby, baby
The reason I breathe is you
Boy you got me blinded
Oh baby, baby
There's nothing that I wouldn't do
That's not the way I planned it
Show me, how you want it to be
Tell me baby
'Cause I need to know now what we've got

[Repeat CHORUS]

Oh baby, baby
Oh baby, baby
Ah, yeah, yeah
Oh baby, baby
How was I supposed to know
Oh pretty baby
I shouldn't have let you go
I must confess, that my loneliness
Is killing me now
Don't you know I still believe
That you will be here
And give me a sign
Hit me baby one more time

[Repeat CHORUS]

I must confess that my loneliness
Is killing me now
Don't you know I still believe
That you will be here
And give me a sign
Hit me baby one more time

27 posted on 06/25/2005 9:01:36 PM PDT by Libloather (I trust Hillary as far as I can throw her...)
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To: Cicero

Probably sounds better in the original Portugese.


28 posted on 06/25/2005 9:03:13 PM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: blam

This is, after all, a big deal. Like finding a new sonnet of Shakespeare's.


29 posted on 06/25/2005 10:14:53 PM PDT by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: Hank Rearden

There are no surviving poems of Plato reputed to be as great or greater poet as philosopher. Poetry was to be sung in public in Lesbos' day. Writing was not yet as significant as later. It is only by good luck that we have most of Aristotle.

Who knows what was lost in the Great Library of Alexandria.


30 posted on 06/25/2005 10:27:52 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: FreeAtlanta

Of course it was where the term Lesbian came from. She ran a school for young girls training them to be good wives and mothers. While there is no doubt she may have loved her charges the evidence of sexual deviancy is quite slim given the volume of evidence upon which it is based.


31 posted on 06/25/2005 10:31:01 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

"Didn't Sappho create lesbianism?"

No, that was Satan.


32 posted on 06/25/2005 11:34:10 PM PDT by dsc
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To: marsh_of_mists

Are you sure about that? Kozachka says the Philistines burned the library at Alexandria.


33 posted on 06/26/2005 1:44:42 AM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: ValerieUSA
Burning the Library at Alexandria appears to have been a popular pastime among conquerors..

It has been blamed on phillistines, romans, muslims, and a pyromaniac librarian from Thebes that couldn't stomach competition..

There are also rumours that the Alexandrian Library's festival of jugglers with flaming torches may have caused a few conflagurations as well..

My best guess is the Alexandrian practice of tying oily rags to a cat's tail and setting them on fire during the full moon was the actual culprit...

34 posted on 06/26/2005 4:37:39 AM PDT by Drammach (Freedom; not just a job, it's an adventure..)
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To: Nateman

Yeah, well, Sappho is why they call them Lesbians.


35 posted on 06/26/2005 5:24:09 AM PDT by Cheburashka
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To: Reactionary
Plato is the greatest of Greek poets. Sappho's poems do have a musical timbre that sounds like they float down from heaven. Its a shame her complete works have been lost. Its like judging Shakespeare from one sonnet and scattered fragments of his 38 plays.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
36 posted on 06/26/2005 5:29:32 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Nateman

Do you read ancient Greek?


37 posted on 06/26/2005 7:13:26 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (John 6: 51-58)
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To: Cicero

I guess you'd have to be there. I'll wait in the car.


38 posted on 06/26/2005 10:41:05 AM PDT by wildbill
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To: Hank Rearden

She was one of the most revered poets of the Classical world. Her poems, like all of the famous poems of the period, were read and usually memorized by the educated Greeks and Romans. However, after the Empire became Christian, the monks who copied texts decided that hers were too immoral and they destroyed basically all of them. That's why, if we can find her works, we find them reused in another function or in garbage heaps in Egypt.


39 posted on 06/26/2005 1:54:55 PM PDT by classicsguy
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To: Noachian
Here I sit in solemn bliss
listening to the sound of trickling...
40 posted on 06/26/2005 2:06:26 PM PDT by Old Professer (As darkness is the absence of light, evil is the absence of good; innocence is blind.)
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