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To: Mylo; Nathan Zachary
Um, excuse me, but isn't there light visible from objects a LOT more than 3 million light years away?

Um, excuse me, but if that light was shining when you were born, don't you think it might be wise to leave "3 million light years away" an open question? It wasn't all that long ago our forefathers figured out light was not of infinite speed, and even then it took over 53 years of grueling scientific banter to "figure it out."

Have you lived long enough and observed enough to know for certain that "nothing travels faster than the speed of light in a vaccuum?" Preach it if you wish, but don't be surprised if scientific progress, as much as it has slowed down since Charles Darwin, eventually knocks you out of the pulpit.

70 posted on 06/17/2005 9:08:22 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Fester Chugabrew

"Um, excuse me, but isn't there light visible from objects a LOT more than 3 million light years away? Um, excuse me, but if that light was shining when you were born, don't you think it might be wise to leave "3 million light years away" an open question? "

I addressed that in post 70. The creationist game is a fun child's got-ya game. Nothing can be figured out according to the game rules. Let me re-post my little try at creationist nothing can be figured out logic(post 70):

Well the evolutionists came up with the distance to the stars using circular reasoning, assuming an old universe. But in fact if we go back to when the creator said, 'Let there be light' and multiply a short time times the speed of light we can prove the stars are a few feet way. The distant star theory is just another plot by atheists. It is now common fact (except for those evolutionists) that the stars are orbiting the earth at close range.

Now let's re-write the science books


90 posted on 06/18/2005 8:24:44 PM PDT by marylandrepub1 (God does not insist that we be stupid)
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To: Fester Chugabrew
"Um, excuse me, but if that light was shining when you were born, don't you think it might be wise to leave "3 million light years away" an open question? "

No, not an "open question" just a question subject to the scientific method.


"It wasn't all that long ago our forefathers figured out light was not of infinite speed, and even then it took over 53 years of grueling scientific banter to "figure it out." "

Using the scientific method, infinite speed is a good initial model to start out with, and within the accuracy of their measurements. And it took them awhile to arrive at the most accurate measurement because of limitations in creating a vacuum, not bantering.

"Have you lived long enough and observed enough to know for certain that "nothing travels faster than the speed of light in a vacuum?" Preach it if you wish, but don't be surprised if scientific progress, as much as it has slowed down since Charles Darwin, eventually knocks you out of the pulpit."

I know that nothing has been observed to travel faster than the speed of light in a vacuum. And I think I can assume that light in a vacuum travels the speed of light in a vacuum. Scientific progress has not slowed down since Charles Darwin and it continues to advance at an exponential rate. So why don't you go Fester, and then Chug a brew, and then read some basic book on science and the history of science. You'll be a better person for it.
95 posted on 06/19/2005 10:04:46 AM PDT by Mylo
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