[rwfromkansas]

Well, he died for his elect; the whole world is a general statement and does not mean every single person in the entire world.

God's will never fails, and if he sent Jesus to die for everyone, all would be saved.

He only died for those the Father predestined to be saved.

[WKB]

He only died for those the Father predestined to be saved.




OH so you are one of those

[GGpaX4DumpedTea]

Yes, Fr Calvin...

[frgoff]

Well, he died for his elect; the whole world is a general statement and does not mean every single person in the entire world.

I always find it fascinating when people take a plain statement and make it have a hidden meaning to fit their personal theology.

[Petronski]

He only died for those the Father predestined to be saved.

Wow.

[OB1kNOb]

1Timothy 2 - 1 Therefore I exhort first of all that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks be made for all men, 2 for kings and all who are in authority, that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and reverence. 3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, 4 who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave Himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time, 7 for which I was appointed a preacher and an apostle--I am speaking the truth *in Christ and not lying--a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and truth.

Now either the Word of GOD (Bible) is errant or one of our interpretations is. Either GOD predestined all to be saved by providing THE WAY that they may be saved (believing/trusting in HIS SON)or GOD predetermined and preselected who would be saved beforehand with no chance of changing HIS decision.

GOD has provided THE WAY through which all might be saved, but all have the volition of free will to choose/accept/reject that predestined way of being saved. Read in it's whole, the Bible clearly indicates that GOD is merciful and desires all to be saved not predetermined and preselected on a person to person basis. Granted, GOD is omniscient and omnipresent, and so is not bound by time or lack of knowledge. HE knows who will be saved and who will not, but this is not the same as saying he predetermined/preselected/predestined who will be and who won't be saved.

Galatians 1:6 I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel, 7 which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. 9 As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed.