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Disabled Lawyer Offers Compelling Memoir Of Survival. Terri Dailies June 5
The Tampa Tribune ^ | June 5, 2005 | ANGIE DROBNIC HOLAN

Posted on 06/05/2005 11:45:26 AM PDT by 8mmMauser

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Terri Schindler (Schiavo-I prefer to chop that part off) and her story continues despite wishes of so many that the issue would just go away.
1 posted on 06/05/2005 11:45:45 AM PDT by 8mmMauser
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To: amdgmary

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2 posted on 06/05/2005 11:46:34 AM PDT by 8mmMauser
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To: Ohioan from Florida; floriduh voter

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3 posted on 06/05/2005 11:47:39 AM PDT by 8mmMauser
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To: 8mmMauser

Over and done. Deal with it.


4 posted on 06/05/2005 11:48:53 AM PDT by Windsong (FighterPilot)
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To: MeekOneGOP; Future Useless Eater; tutstar; russesjunjee

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5 posted on 06/05/2005 11:48:58 AM PDT by 8mmMauser
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To: Windsong

You wish


6 posted on 06/05/2005 11:49:26 AM PDT by 8mmMauser
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To: TAdams8591; EternalVigilance; phenn

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7 posted on 06/05/2005 11:51:41 AM PDT by 8mmMauser
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To: backhoe; Sun; Republic; PhilDragoo; LauraJean; cyn; pc93; truepatriot; TheSarce; BykrBayb; ...

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8 posted on 06/05/2005 11:58:47 AM PDT by 8mmMauser
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To: 8mmMauser
Crosslinked, and thanks:

-Useless Eaters vs The Death Cult--

9 posted on 06/05/2005 12:10:29 PM PDT by backhoe (Just Another 'Bot for Terri... for Life...)
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To: Earthdweller

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10 posted on 06/05/2005 12:49:35 PM PDT by 8mmMauser
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To: T'wit
Caught your note from the other thread, what a thought!

What I heard is that King was captured by the Spanish Inquisition, flogged with cactus branches, tied spread-eagled on a hill of fire ants, trampled by 300,000 Mongolian cavalry ponies, jeered on the Oprah Winfrey show, and finally barbecued at the Whistlestop Cafe where folks said he was the most delicious barbecue they had ever tasted. There was enough for everyone to have several helpings of Jim.

It was one of the best dreams I ever had.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1401087/posts?q=1&&page=651

11 posted on 06/05/2005 2:31:10 PM PDT by 8mmMauser
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To: 8mmMauser
buuuuuuuuuummmp! :)

12 posted on 06/05/2005 2:43:27 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: 8mmMauser
"She insists on being her own complicated person, a Southern lady, for instance, as well as a socialist, an atheist, a lawyer and a born storyteller with a wicked sense of humor. "

You want to know how to get a die-hard Christian Republican to agree with a socialist/atheist?

Start legally killing off disabled people for the money.

13 posted on 06/05/2005 3:22:37 PM PDT by Earthdweller (US descendant of French Protestants_"Where there is life, there is hope"..Terri Schindler)
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To: Earthdweller

At Pinellas Park I noticed while talking to those around,I had a wiccan on one side, a Protestant on the other and a Catholic. It looked like almost every point of religion was represented and and all for the same thing (except some guy dancing and waving feathers and blowing smoke at us. Never quite understood that one.)


14 posted on 06/05/2005 4:19:52 PM PDT by 8mmMauser
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To: Windsong

This is not going away until we get some justice for Terri and her family. Deal with THAT!


15 posted on 06/05/2005 4:42:16 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Women don't belong in Ground Combat!!!!)
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To: Windsong

Bahahaha!


16 posted on 06/05/2005 4:59:53 PM PDT by Earthdweller (US descendant of French Protestants_"Where there is life, there is hope"..Terri Schindler)
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To: 8mmMauser
>> (Schiavo-I prefer to chop that part off)

I'm wondering what could conceivably be a "great story" about Peter Singer, unless somebody decided to chop that part off.

17 posted on 06/05/2005 5:40:49 PM PDT by T'wit (My favorite bioethicists: Ted Bundy, Ed Gein, Jeffrey Dahmer, Ilse Koch, Pol Pot and Ronald Cranford)
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To: 8mmMauser

I know we are supposed to love our neighbor, but if Jim King moves in, I am moving out before he becomes a neighbor.


18 posted on 06/05/2005 5:59:50 PM PDT by T'wit (My favorite bioethicists: Ted Bundy, Ed Gein, Jeffrey Dahmer, Ilse Koch, Pol Pot and Ronald Cranford)
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To: Windsong

Never!!

We will never go away until justice is served to the wicked, who
killed Terri - those who sinned by comission as well as omission!


19 posted on 06/05/2005 6:17:03 PM PDT by Lesforlife ("For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb . . ." Psalm 139:13)
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To: T'wit

You mean chop off his Singer??


20 posted on 06/05/2005 6:46:08 PM PDT by 8mmMauser
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To: 8mmMauser
Her gripe with the telethon is its grim prognostications.

On the contrary, Jerry Lewis and his telethons are the epitome of hope for cures for neuromuscular diseases.

But, around here, the disabled who attack Jerry Lewis get lots of attention.

21 posted on 06/05/2005 6:53:14 PM PDT by sinkspur (If you want unconditional love with skin, and hair and a warm nose, get a shelter dog.)
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To: sinkspur

Thanks for bringing that up.

I don't follow Jerry Lewis much except when we lived in France all our neighbors loved his unfunny continence. They would ask me and be surprised I didn't care for the guy.

Others don't care for him either as evidenced here:

http://www.independentliving.org/docs4/hershey93.html

I understand what Laura Hershey means. Many of the handicapped I met at Pinellas Park were not expecting some promised cures, were more interested in getting on with their lives.


22 posted on 06/05/2005 7:18:19 PM PDT by 8mmMauser (www.ChristtheKingMaine.com)
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To: Salvation

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23 posted on 06/05/2005 7:18:48 PM PDT by 8mmMauser (www.ChristtheKingMaine.com)
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To: 8mmMauser
Well, Jerry's doing what he can to help people in need.

If the adults don't want the help, fine. He's got plenty of children on his radar who might benefit.

24 posted on 06/05/2005 7:27:07 PM PDT by sinkspur (If you want unconditional love with skin, and hair and a warm nose, get a shelter dog.)
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To: sinkspur

Neither Jerry Lewis nor his types ever offered us an iota of help in the 26 years of our "need", except we never asked for such help, never expected any amazing cures, were too busy living our lives.

We who are or were in those situations appreciate how to look at life through the practical and the what-is, not what may be.

Jerry Lewis might be a wonderful person and be doing wonderful things. The French we know love him.

The people in this article I saw in action, even had to step over one or two, and they were pretty darn decent. I also saw a lot of handicapped kids there, and the attitudes were pretty much the same regardless. No bone to pick with Jerry Lewis, just not interested.


25 posted on 06/05/2005 7:42:55 PM PDT by 8mmMauser (www.ChristtheKingMaine.com)
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To: 8mmMauser
Johnson has an unnamed muscle-wasting disease, but don't dare say she "suffers" from it. She insists on being her own complicated person, a Southern lady, for instance, as well as a socialist, an atheist, a lawyer and a born storyteller with a wicked sense of humor.

She's got a good attitude, despite being a socialist.

26 posted on 06/05/2005 8:10:11 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Free Mexico!)
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; ExPatInFrance; TheSpottedOwl; ClancyJ; Abby4116; Alissa; ...

Ping to June

I was kind of surprised when these folks appeared on the scene. They were so diametrically opposed in many ways to my own thinking, I could hardly believe we could get along. But we did.

Sorry if I duplicated some pings....

8mm


27 posted on 06/05/2005 8:10:27 PM PDT by 8mmMauser (www.ChristtheKingMaine.com)
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To: Windsong
Over and done. Deal with it.

You don't get it? Terri has passed away(brutally murdered), but there are others out there facing the same treatment. Would you like to leave this earth by starving and dehydrating to death? I know I don't.

28 posted on 06/05/2005 8:12:29 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Free Mexico!)
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To: TheSpottedOwl
She's got a good attitude, despite being a socialist.

I got along with them better than some of my "conservative" and Catholic brethren. Wow, what am I saying??

29 posted on 06/05/2005 8:16:30 PM PDT by 8mmMauser (www.ChristtheKingMaine.com)
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30 posted on 06/05/2005 8:26:12 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: 8mmMauser

Thanks for posting.


31 posted on 06/05/2005 8:39:45 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: 8mmMauser

Thanks for the ping!


32 posted on 06/05/2005 8:45:24 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: PhilDragoo
Isn't that a GREAT title? How clever!

Thank you for the pic, Phil!

33 posted on 06/05/2005 9:08:27 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Women don't belong in Ground Combat!!!!)
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To: Earthdweller; All
Your right...its all about the money with the Repubs and the Dems.

Anybody here know anything about the Derzon memo that was leaked during the Carter administration?
34 posted on 06/05/2005 9:47:08 PM PDT by russesjunjee (Shake the fog from your eyes sheople! Our country is swirling down the sewer!)
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To: PhilDragoo
Nice pic. I see she is smiling.

I work with the Disabled and the first thing I check for is the smile.

If it isn't there I consider putting it back on job one.

When will the world come to realize so many of these people love life just as they are?

A point that may be of interest to some is that I find a lot of those I have worked with are very angry with God for their condition.

I remind them that God don't make no junk and there is a purpose for them.

I commend McBryde for writing her book.

35 posted on 06/05/2005 9:57:05 PM PDT by Earthdweller (US descendant of French Protestants_"Where there is life, there is hope"..Terri Schindler)
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To: Windsong
We will continue to seek justice for Terri regardless of how long it takes for justice to be served.
36 posted on 06/05/2005 10:11:46 PM PDT by russesjunjee (Shake the fog from your eyes sheople! Our country is swirling down the sewer!)
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To: Windsong

When are you going to figure out, it's simply not over and done with?


37 posted on 06/05/2005 10:14:07 PM PDT by justche (No one can go back and make a brand new start, any one can start now and make a brand new ending)
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To: russesjunjee
No I didn't know about the memo..but I sure as heck do now.

This snip is pretty amazing form this website...

http://www.discardedlies.com/entries/2005/03/the_cruelest_hoax_signing_your_own_death_warrant.php

I wonder how reliable the info is.

EUTHANASIA

"The idea was launched in the U.S.A. in 1969 by a law journal article entitled "Due Process of Euthanasia: the Living Will, a Proposal." (In Britain the Voluntary Euthanasia Society is the main distributor of Wills/Directives). The proposal soon found favour with U.S. government officials as an economy measure. The leaked "Derzon memorandum" advised President Carter to "Change social values regarding cost-inducing activities" and stated "The cost-saving from a nation-wide push toward 'Living Wills' is likely to be enormous. Over one-fifth of Medicare expenditures are for persons in their last year of life." But it was not until 1991 that it was made compulsory for all patients admitted to hospital in the U.S., for whatever reason, to be presented with "Living Will" forms."

So what are we trying to say here..that now we want to push the envelope and include not only those who are in the last years of life in those cost savings measures but also those that might require long term Medicare like the borderline disabled (PVS, Alzheimer's, CP patients, the minimally conscious, etc.)?

38 posted on 06/05/2005 11:33:54 PM PDT by Earthdweller (US descendant of French Protestants_"Where there is life, there is hope"..Terri Schindler)
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To: 8mmMauser

I didn't work out the details, but something like that.


39 posted on 06/06/2005 4:03:03 AM PDT by T'wit (My favorite bioethicists: Ted Bundy, Ed Gein, Jeffrey Dahmer, Ilse Koch, Pol Pot and Ronald Cranford)
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To: Windsong

Martyrs live forever. The people who murdered her so cruelly, and the people who cheered, will always be remembered as the loathsome grubs they are.


40 posted on 06/06/2005 4:16:08 AM PDT by T'wit (My favorite bioethicists: Ted Bundy, Ed Gein, Jeffrey Dahmer, Ilse Koch, Pol Pot and Ronald Cranford)
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To: 8mmMauser

It was surprising to me as well. There was a great diversity of backgrounds/lifestyles of the supporters at the hospice.

All the while the Terri supporters on a well known conservative forum were berated for their position and some wished to ostracize them as RIGHT WING WACKOS. . . when the true picture in real life was that there were wackos from all walks of life who realized that a disabled person was being starved to death.

I still can't get over how many people were brainwashed by the stream of muck coming over the airwaves and would say "She's not being starved, she's being allowed to die".

If I don't feed my dog will I be allowing it to die?


41 posted on 06/06/2005 5:01:00 AM PDT by tutstar ( <{{--->< Impeach Judge Greer http://www.petitiononline.com/ijg520/petition.html)
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To: 8mmMauser

Thanks for posting this, 8mmMauser.


42 posted on 06/06/2005 5:22:59 AM PDT by syriacus (MSM isn't idolizing Felt 100%. They must be afraid that some Liberal rocks will be turned over.)
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To: Windsong
Over and done. Deal with it.

Are you ----

1. Offering advice?

or

2. Issuing a command?


43 posted on 06/06/2005 5:31:19 AM PDT by syriacus (MSM isn't idolizing Felt 100%. They must be afraid that some Liberal rocks will be turned over.)
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To: tutstar

Among those speaking out for Terri and blasting the arrogance and errors of the judiciary were: Ralph Nader, the hard left presidential candidate in the last two elections; Jesse Jackson (lukewarm, at least); liberal Senators Joe Lieberman and Tom Harkin (that one surprised me); Harriet McBryde Johnson, reported above, who wrote an eloquent essay supporting Terri (I think it was in SLATE); and most forcibly of all, Nat Hentoff, the left's premier spokesman for civil rights. Hentoff, like the FR troops, had followed the case for years and knew about details like the bone scan that the liberal media covered up. Gloria Allred and Alan Dershowitz, two top lawyers for leftist causes, expressed deep misgivings about the killing and Dershowitz added that he certainly opposed it if Terri could feel pain, as of course she could.


44 posted on 06/06/2005 5:40:28 AM PDT by T'wit (My favorite bioethicists: Ted Bundy, Ed Gein, Jeffrey Dahmer, Ilse Koch, Pol Pot and Ronald Cranford)
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To: russesjunjee

Justice will come when MS and Greer are indicted for conspiracy to commit Murder, and Murder


45 posted on 06/06/2005 5:41:41 AM PDT by jwin
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To: jwin

I would love to see that happen in my lifetime or theirs. But if not, when they bring their case before the Pearly Gates, I don't want to be anywhere nearby. I hate lightning.


46 posted on 06/06/2005 6:31:40 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (www.ChristtheKingMaine.com)
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Ping.

Good morning, freepers. This is the TERRI DAILIES RUNNING THREAD FOR JUNE 2005.

Please bump, ping and crosslink related threads here because this topic and Terri's wrongful death does not end our grassroots efforts to end death being litigated by judicial despots.

If Americans were given the opportunity to vote on euthanasia, it would be voted down.

The end run around our right to vote: The death lobby plans on litigating state by state after careful judge shopping until the vulnerable and weak have their financial resources and their very lives stolen from them.

Find out what kind of judges you have in your community. If they are despots like Judge George Greer and Judge James Whittemore (Fed. Crt. Tampa), keep an eye on them. (other judges are involved but Terri's death is clearly as a result of Judge Greer and Judge Whittemore's gross negligence in stealing Terri's civil rights from her and by thwarting the U.S. Congress, the President and Gov. Bush (I'm not a Bush fan now).

47 posted on 06/06/2005 6:37:27 AM PDT by floriduh voter (www.terrisfight.org & www.theemppirejournal.com... The Schindlers "Never again.")
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To: tutstar

As we have seen, some people hear only what they want to hear and seek out any frail evidence that supports it, even if patently phoney.

Where just about everyone from every point of view was there in union in their thoughts, the only divergence was that small handful of detractors and performers, maybe even actors, whom I am convinced were paid to be there. Not too many real dissidents, just the few hired ones. And they felt really out of place and uncomfortable.

I find it fascinating that those who want this issue to go quietly away will search out those paid thugs as proof.

8mm


48 posted on 06/06/2005 6:39:18 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (www.ChristtheKingMaine.com)
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To: tutstar

"There was a great diversity of backgrounds/lifestyles of the supporters at the hospice."

To me, that was one of the few candles of hope shining in those dark, dark weeks. As I've said to several people since, both liberal and conservative: When George W. Bush, Ralph Nader and Jesse Jackson are all saying the same thing, it just might be time to listen.


49 posted on 06/06/2005 7:30:43 AM PDT by Narnian
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" Anybody here know anything about the Derzon memo that was leaked during the Carter administration? "

I hadn't heard of the Derzon Memo until you mentioned it. I wasn't surprised to find out it had to do with *Living Wills*. Those jerks and their double/backwards talk, are just full of little surprises.

It seems I've read where Carter created a government study which used the services of the hateful Dr Ron Cranford. He's the Doctor of Death who voted against Terri. The culture of death has been busy as bees over the past many years, figuring out ways to kill off people by using dirty tricks.

Felos and the MSM went out of their way to portray those who were against killing Terri as Extremist Religious Nuts. Felos took every opportunity to fuel the fire by saying the Schindler's got their support from Pro-Life groups, like that was something horrible.

Felos and the Media failed to mention all the Disability Groups who were Against killing Terri. They even used the same BS words as were used to justify abortion - Rights and Privacy. How many times have we heard this was just a family dispute that people like Delay and other politicans, were trying to stick their noses into. I'm so disgusted with the LYING Media and their distortion of words.

Also, I'm sure everyone noticed how the Media pushed the Living Will agenda almost every time Terri was mentioned. An article I read this morning stated - In Britain the *Voluntary Euthanasia Society* is the main distributor of Living Wills/Directives. I wondered how many innocents would die because they ran out and signed a Living Will, after being told by the media that Living Wills would prevent family disputes. Grrrrrrrrr

This campaign to eliminate people has apparently been going on a lot longer than most of us thought. Margaret Sanger would be proud to see that abortion has evolved into euthanasia, just like she planned. We almost need a new dictionary to figure out what old words now mean. Living and Rights sure don't mean what they used too.




50 posted on 06/06/2005 8:13:38 AM PDT by Pepper777 (I support Rep Tom Delay~!!!)
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