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To: Dog Gone
Wow, a flu that kills within two hours from infection? And what is your source for that?

I've seen it too. The source was an anecdotal report from the Boxun folks. Seems some of the people supposedly from the "Strep Suis" bacteria in pigs have been dying very quickly after coming in contact with pig blood during the slaughtering process. The fastest was 2 hours.

It was assumed exposure to the pig blood is what led to death, but that assumption has not been confirmed.

Strep Suis has NEVER been even remotely this dangerous before. Hence the suspicion that the mysterious pig disease is something else. The Chinese decision to move 50,000 "medical workers" into place was supposedly to monitor this bacterial pig disease.

Since a common sequence for flu is birds to pigs to humans, with the jump from pigs to humans fairly easy, it is natural to wonder if the real culprit behind the pig disease is H5N1. Since the Chinese are not cooperating, we have no conclusive proof.

1,281 posted on 08/06/2005 10:50:37 PM PDT by EternalHope (Boycott everything French forever. Including their vassal nations.)
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To: EternalHope
Two hours sounds awful fast for a virus or a bacterium. Maybe some sort of lethal toxin, chemical or otherwise created by the pathogenic agent. Does anyone know of such a bug out there?

With the exception of only a few very lethal snakes, banana spiders, and fish toxins, I can't think of anything that deadly out there if there is no allergic reaction.

1,284 posted on 08/07/2005 12:47:38 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (God save us from the fury of the do-gooders!)
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To: EternalHope

My guess is that the bacteria in the pigs is completely unrelated to H5N1, because bacteria and viruses are two totally diffferent things. Maybe there is a causal relationship, but I'm merely a layman in these matters.


1,286 posted on 08/07/2005 7:38:35 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: EternalHope
"Strep Suis has NEVER been even remotely this dangerous bef"

Not true strep suis serotype 2 is a HIGHLY virulent pathogen causing septicemia and meningitis in patients, both of which are fatal In the case of the former death can and does result within a few hours, as a result of toxic shock or chronic renal failure.

1,295 posted on 08/07/2005 3:18:03 PM PDT by Kelly_2000 (Because they stand on a wall and say nothing is going to hurt you tonight. Not on my watch)
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To: EternalHope
"Since a common sequence for flu is birds to pigs to humans, with the jump from pigs to humans fairly easy, it is natural to wonder if the real culprit behind the pig disease is H5N1."

Both pathogens are endemic to these regions so it's actually natural to assume it could and is both causing separate but concurrent outbreaks

1,296 posted on 08/07/2005 3:31:06 PM PDT by Kelly_2000 (Because they stand on a wall and say nothing is going to hurt you tonight. Not on my watch)
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