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Violence At Cinco de Mayo
The Santa Rosa Press Democrat ^ | 5/6/05 | By MARY CALLAHAN, DEREK MOORE

Posted on 05/06/2005 12:30:19 PM PDT by freebilly

Windows of police car, bank broken in Roseland Rocks, concrete thrown at police; officers fire rubber bullets, gas

A line of Sonoma County sheriff's deputies move forward at Sepastopol Road and West Avenue in Roseland as they fire off smoke bombs and tear gas to disperse Cinco de Mayo revelers Thursday.

Santa Rosa's Cinco de Mayo street celebrations erupted in violence once again Thursday despite a show of force by police, who used rubber bullets, pepper spray and smoke grenades to disperse disorderly crowds.

The clashes in the Roseland neighborhood mirrored events last year, when surging crowds on Sebastopol Road broke windows and pelted cars with rocks.

On Thursday, a Santa Rosa police sergeant, clad in a helmet for protection, was struck in the head with a chunk of concrete but wasn't hurt, authorities said.

The rear window of a police car was smashed and so were several windows at an Exchange Bank branch on Sebastopol Road, authorities said.

As many as 1,000 people turned out for what has become an annual rite: cars cruising up and down Mendocino Avenue and Sebastopol Road, many displaying Mexican flags, while crowds gather alongside.

The largest crowds were in Roseland, where for the third straight year people clashed with police and sheriff's deputies when revelry was replaced by violence after dark.

For at least the second straight year, police reported no arrests by late Thursday night.

The impromptu cruising and street celebrations have been marked by an increasing police presence since 2002, when five people were injured in gang clashes on Mendocino Avenue.

Although there hasn't been a repeat of the gang violence, vandals smashed windows at eight Roseland businesses last year. Authorities urged businesses to close early this year.

Santa Rosa, Petaluma and Sebastopol police, the Sonoma County Sheriff's Department and county probation personnel were among about 150 law enforcement officers assigned to maintain order.

Crowds were noticeably smaller on Mendocino Avenue, where police cleared a group of young men with American flags who were watching from a parking lot near Steele Lane the passing parade of cars marking Mexico's victory over the French in the Battle of Puebla in 1862.

The large show of force and a zero tolerance approach, in which dozens of motorists were stopped and many cited for minor infractions, appeared to contribute to tensions in the crowd as the evening wore on.

"I'm here to celebrate Cinco de Mayo. It's the only day that our people can get together," said one frustrated reveler, Adan Hernandez, 25, of Santa Rosa. "They take our cars. They don't give us licenses. They don't give us any respect."

Lydia Leal, who works in Roseland and got caught up in efforts to clear the street, said authorities overreacted.

"It's as if they're walking the roads of Baghdad," she said.

There were other criticisms and even "boos" aimed at police patrols in the hour before disorder broke out, beginning with a few rocks being thrown on Sebastopol Road.

Shortly after 8:30 p.m., earlier than in recent years, authorities closed Mendocino Avenue and prepared to move on Sebastopol Road, donning tactical gear and setting off smoke grenades in the packed Roseland Shopping Center parking lot, "basically saying the party is over," Sheriff's Lt. Roger Rude said.

One CHP officer told a group of five teenage girls to "get out of here, while you can."

"Take it seriously," he said, as the crowd started surging into the street.

Amid chants of "Mexico" and "Viva Mexico," some individuals began throwing orange traffic cones, and soon someone was pelting a Sonoma County sheriff's car with rocks.

The Sheriff's Department tactical squad then moved into a line across Sebastopol Road, backing the crowd east toward Dutton Avenue, where a squad of Santa Rosa police officers, including Chief Ed Flint, waited and blocked the road.

Rude said it was preplanned in event violence broke out.

"That way we moved more quickly and forced them to move quickly and scatter," Rude said.

But authorities continued to battle "hot pockets" around Roseland residential areas and the downtown area, Police Sgt. Steve Bair said, including one area on West and Sunset avenues where about 45 helmeted SWAT and tactical team members fired pepperballs to disperse an angry crowd minutes after Sebastopol Road was closed.

"It looks like it (the level of violence) is probably at least what it was last year because at one point we got road that they were throwing burning objects into the air," Bair said. "I think it's at least what it was last year, maybe a little bit worse."

But authorities said they generally were pleased with the law enforcement operation, which had cleared much of the crowd by 11 p.m.

"From my perspective it worked very well," said Sheriff's Capt. Dave Sederholm, who was in command of the sheriff's response Thursday night. "We had no injuries to officers or to anyone in the cruise."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: cincodemayo; immigration; latino; mexico; roseland; santarosa; violence
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To: johnb838

It's not Mex's fault. His mommy forget to get his medicine again.


41 posted on 05/06/2005 12:54:30 PM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (I leave reason and good manners to those that have them.)
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To: freebilly

The violence is a semi-inevitable consequence of (a) young men and (b) consuming large amounts of alcohol.


42 posted on 05/06/2005 12:55:51 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse
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To: freebilly

"Violence At Cinco de Mayo"

Wouldn't it be ON cinco de mayo? not At? or maybe Violence At Cinco de Mayo Celebration?


43 posted on 05/06/2005 12:56:29 PM PDT by tfecw (Vote Democrat, It's easier than working)
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To: Mr. Mojo
If they have such loyalty to Mexico, then why.......

Good question. I often wonder that myself.
44 posted on 05/06/2005 12:56:57 PM PDT by VegasCowboy ("...he wore his gun outside his pants, for all the honest world to feel.")
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To: tfecw

"Wouldn't it be ON cinco de mayo? not At? or maybe Violence At Cinco de Mayo Celebration?"

Do you really expect someone who writes for a living to use proper grammar? :)


45 posted on 05/06/2005 12:57:37 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse
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To: Dane
Lock 'em Up and deport 'em!

"Huh how come you didn't say that when Boston was torn apart by drunken Red Sox fans."

Um, while I can't speak for NormsRevenge with certainty, I'd say he was most likely referring to the illegal aliens who were perpetrating the violence (not to mention demanding all the rights of an American citizen without being one in the first place). If any of the Red Sox fans who were arrested for rioting were illegal immigrants, then they should have been deported as well. Is that too difficult to grasp?

46 posted on 05/06/2005 12:59:35 PM PDT by Chappaquiddick Crawdad ("E unum pluribus"? Perhaps you meant "ex uno plures", or is that "stultus sum"? hmmm...)
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To: Mr. Mojo

You know, I don't even understand why they make such a big deal about Cinco de Mayo.

Yeah, they beat a foreign army like it was the red-headed stepchild.

But it was a FRENCH army, fergawdsake! That's like the San Diego Padres bragging about beating a Little League team!


47 posted on 05/06/2005 12:59:37 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse
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To: freebilly

Yet they continue to give permission for such "celebrations". Better to be PC than safe, I suppose. *sigh* Your taxpayer dollars at work again.


48 posted on 05/06/2005 12:59:40 PM PDT by AmericanChef
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
Do you really expect someone who writes for a living to use proper grammar? :)

Well answers very you had! :) "Journalists" kill me sometimes
49 posted on 05/06/2005 12:59:52 PM PDT by tfecw (Vote Democrat, It's easier than working)
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To: tfecw

"Well answers very you had!"

Why, hello, Master Yoda! Didn't recognize you.


50 posted on 05/06/2005 1:00:43 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse
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To: Dashing Dasher

We all need to stop celebrating Sinkholedemayo. It is not an American accomplishment anyway. Mexico doesn't even celebrate it.


51 posted on 05/06/2005 1:01:36 PM PDT by television is just wrong (http://heidisblogs.blogspot.com/)
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To: VegasCowboy

I believe their loyalty is the Cerveza - not to Mexico.


52 posted on 05/06/2005 1:01:55 PM PDT by Dashing Dasher (Lack of planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on mine.)
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To: television is just wrong

"Mexico doesn't even celebrate it."

Out here, it's called "Cinco de Drinko."

And you're right--it's nothing to brag about. They only beat a French army...


53 posted on 05/06/2005 1:03:01 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
The violence is a semi-inevitable consequence of (a) young men and (b) consuming large amounts of alcohol

True, on Memorial Day, Labor Day, and The 4th of July me and 1000 other suburbanites in Santa Rosa fire up the Webers, get drunk, then riot in the streets....

54 posted on 05/06/2005 1:03:04 PM PDT by freebilly (Go Santa Cruz Baseball!)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
You know, I don't even understand why they make such a big deal about Cinco de Mayo.
Yeah, they beat a foreign army like it was the red-headed stepchild.

BUT!!!
The French Army came back and whipped their butts later. They won ONE battle and lost the war - and STILL celebrate it like it was .... important!

55 posted on 05/06/2005 1:04:01 PM PDT by Dashing Dasher (Lack of planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on mine.)
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To: freebilly

"True, on Memorial Day, Labor Day, and The 4th of July me and 1000 other suburbanites in Santa Rosa fire up the Webers, get drunk, then riot in the streets..."

I said "young men" and "large amounts of alcohol." You don't see a lot of young men get together and drink themselves halfway into a stupor on those days.

I live in San Diego County--we call it "Cinco de Drinko."


56 posted on 05/06/2005 1:05:20 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse
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To: VegasCowboy
I think the answer is that they do indeed have loyalty to Mexico and they intend to get back the (U.S.) land they believe to be rightfully theirs by overwhelming us demographically. ....slowly but surely.

Then there are others whose loyalty also lies South of the border but they're here simply trying to make a buck while holding fast to the delusion that they'll make enough one day to be able to go back to Mexico forever.

...and it never happens.

58 posted on 05/06/2005 1:08:26 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: freebilly
"They take our cars. They don't give us licenses. They don't give us any respect."

Why should a gaggle of bracerros get any respect?

Most are, indeed, criminals and have absolutely no conception of what the hell Cinco de Mayo really meant!

In Mexico, it meant that the French were driven from that poverty stricken country filled with illiterates. Today that "nation" is filled with poverty stricken illiterates.

Unfortunately at least 11 million of these illiterates have migrated North of the U. S. border!

59 posted on 05/06/2005 1:08:54 PM PDT by JesseHousman (Execute Mumia Abu-Jamal Today)
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To: robowombat

Deport his ass.


60 posted on 05/06/2005 1:09:10 PM PDT by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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