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Talk-show host says he shot 2 men while under siege (OH)
Ohioans For Concealed Carry ^ | 4/2/05

Posted on 04/02/2005 1:34:49 PM PST by Mr. Mojo

The Columbus Dispatch has published more detailed information on CHL-holder Cornell McCleary, who shot two men Wednesday night after he was punched in the face and surrounded by a threatening group of about 10 men.

From the story:

None of the men appeared to be armed, but "there’s no doubt in my mind they would have killed somebody," said McCleary, 51, who runs a security company and hosts a Sunday night talk show on WTVN (610 AM).

"This was a mob situation," he said.

With his .380-caliber semiautomatic pistol, McCleary shot the two men standing closest to him. He said one had just punched him and the other was about to attack. The gunfire sent the crowd running into a nearby apartment, he said.

According to the news story, the confrontation occurred at 5:55 p.m. while McCleary was working as a security guard for Rustic Ridge Apartments on Vineshire Drive.

Police told the Dispatch it started when a group of men threatened a couple who live at the East Side complex.

Again, from the story:

"We’re going to kill you," members of the group told the man, McCleary said. "I kept telling them to leave the property."

When McCleary tried to intervene, police said, more men showed up, and one of them punched McCleary in the face.

"The guy cold-cocked me," he said.

Then McCleary began firing.

It was the first time in his 23 years as a security guard that he’s had to shoot, McCleary said.

"It’s a new breed," he said of his alleged attackers. "They don’t need a reason."

The newspaper reports that the two men who were shot — Kevin Gullick, 36, and Mark Harmon, 20 — were taken to Grant Medical Center. Gullick was listed in serious condition last night; Harmon was released Wednesday night.

The newspaper reports that police questioned McCleary after the incident and released him. No one has been charged, and detectives continue to investigate.

NOTE: The Dispatch's reporters seem to be having a problem with using terminology that correctly describes Mr. McCleary's status as a concealed handgun license-holder.

In the newspapers' two stories on this issue, reporters Matt Marx and Alayna DeMartini have erroniously referred to McCleary's CHL as a "weapons permit". And in this latest story, DeMartini included a strange observation that McCleary is "up to date on all of his firearms training, a spokesman from the Ohio Department of Public Safety said."

Since Ohio's concealed carry law is only one year old, and since Ohio law does not require re-qualification for six years, doesn't that go without saying?


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: armedcitizen; banglist
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1 posted on 04/02/2005 1:34:50 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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Defensive Use of Firearms Pinglist

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2 posted on 04/02/2005 1:35:34 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo
"It’s a new breed," he said of his alleged attackers. "They don’t need a reason."

No doubt about it...the good ones are very good and the bad ones are very bad....stay armed ..stay safe

3 posted on 04/02/2005 1:43:10 PM PST by joesnuffy (The generation that survived the depression and won WW2 proved poverty does not cause crime)
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To: Mr. Mojo

I'm guessing that as he is a security guard, not just a CHL permit holder, he might have to do a bit more training than a private citizen would. I see security types all the time at my local range, on a regular basis.


4 posted on 04/02/2005 1:48:59 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo
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To: joesnuffy

You should live in Baltimore.


5 posted on 04/02/2005 1:55:03 PM PST by ANGGAPO
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To: Mr. Mojo
None of the men appeared to be armed, but "there’s no doubt in my mind they would have killed somebody," said McCleary, 51, who runs a security company and hosts a Sunday night talk show on WTVN (610 AM).

They don't have to be armed if multiple attackers are present, or if some monster like the clown in that pizza place assault is attacking you. If this story is accurate, good job. I seen many videos of roaming packs of thugs attacking people who very much needed to run into a guy like this.

6 posted on 04/02/2005 1:56:16 PM PST by briant
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To: Mr. Mojo

If there were more guys like this, muggers would disappear.


7 posted on 04/02/2005 1:56:39 PM PST by One Proud Son
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To: Mr. Mojo
While I'm reluctant to criticize another's choice of firearm, I think that had he been carrying a .45, those two thugs would never be able to attack anyone else again.
8 posted on 04/02/2005 1:57:04 PM PST by JoeFromSidney (My book is out. Read excerpts at http://www.thejusticecooperative.com)
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To: JoeFromSidney
I think that had he been carrying a .45, those two thugs would never be able to attack anyone else again.

Roger that. When it came down which weapon I wanted to list on my CCW, I chose my .45 caliber Glock 30. If it ever came down to using a handgun in life-threatening circumstances, I would definitely want the level of firepower the .45 delivers.

9 posted on 04/02/2005 2:01:27 PM PST by Euro-American Scum (A poverty-stricken middle class must be a disarmed middle class)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo
He needs more pracitce with headshots.

How long before these 2 assailants will be back on the street plying their trade again?

10 posted on 04/02/2005 2:01:51 PM PST by Slump Tester (John Kerry - When even your best still isn't good enough)
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To: Slump Tester

Too soon.


11 posted on 04/02/2005 2:04:03 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo
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To: mhking

Black conservative ping...


12 posted on 04/02/2005 2:04:05 PM PST by buccaneer81 (Rick Nash will score 50 goals this season ( if there is a season)
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To: Mr. Mojo
Something like this could NEVER happen in California.

We're supposed to just die quietly and try not to bleed on anything valuable.
13 posted on 04/02/2005 2:05:34 PM PST by InABunkerUnderSF (San Francisco - See It Before God Smites It.)
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To: Mr. Mojo

Nice shooting bump.


15 posted on 04/02/2005 2:08:05 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Official Ruling Class Oligarch Oppressor)
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To: Mr. Mojo
never come unarmed to a gunfight!
16 posted on 04/02/2005 2:08:55 PM PST by Fast1 (Destroy America buy Chinese goods,Shop at Wal-Mart 3/18/05 American was gone when I woke up)
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To: Mr. Mojo
The newspaper reports that the two men who were shot — Kevin Gullick, 36, and Mark Harmon, 20 — were taken to Grant Medical Center.

Mark Harmon? He doesn't look 20 in this picture:


17 posted on 04/02/2005 2:09:10 PM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: Euro-American Scum
At least the .380 was better than nothing. I especially like the part about the mob running upon hearing gun shots.

Run, scum, run!

18 posted on 04/02/2005 2:09:51 PM PST by Supernatural (All the truth in the world adds up to one big lie! bob dylan)
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To: One Proud Son
If there were more guys like this, muggers would disappear.

At the least, they would change professions.

19 posted on 04/02/2005 2:11:00 PM PST by EGPWS
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To: Mr. Mojo; mhking
Cornell McCleary. Heard Sundays 7:00 to 10:00 PM on 610 WTVN Columbus.


20 posted on 04/02/2005 2:12:03 PM PST by buccaneer81 (Rick Nash will score 50 goals this season ( if there is a season)
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