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Pope John Paul II Has Gone to His Heavenly Home with God 2:37 pm EST
BBC News Online World Edition ^ | April 1, 2005

Posted on 03/31/2005 9:54:01 PM PST by bd476

Edited on 04/02/2005 7:53:51 AM PST by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

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To: styky

"I am not a catholic but this Pope will go down in history as one of the greatest Popes in history.

He has spent his entire life in the service of others. "

I have no doubt that the Church will be referring to him as Great (as in Leo the Great, Gregory the Great...) in a remarkably short while (for Church Time).


41 posted on 03/31/2005 11:13:33 PM PST by SolomoninSouthDakota (Daschle is gone.)
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To: spinestein

If he leaves it will be our lose, this pope is a great man that had much to do with the liberation of Eastern Europe.


42 posted on 03/31/2005 11:14:54 PM PST by jpsb
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To: bd476

What a tough guy, so few could turn their own suffering and pain into a positive and uplifting message. When he does die there will be a lot of mourning, but the extraordinary life he lived is worth an equal amount of celebration. All my hopes and prayers to the Pope.


43 posted on 03/31/2005 11:16:03 PM PST by grizzly84
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To: newzjunkey; Petronski; onyx; Pegita; trussell; Salvation; MeekOneGOP

"...The Holy Father's will to remain in his apartments was respected. They are equipped with complete and efficient health facilities... "

"The Holy Father is conscious, lucid and tranquil. At 1917 (1717 GMT Thursday) he received the Holy Viaticum . At 0600 (0400 GMT) today, the Holy Father celebrated Holy Mass.

The cardinal secretary of state and the closest aides of the Holy Father are united with him in prayer and are following the clinical conditions of His Holiness.

The Pope is being assisted by his personal doctor Renato Buzzonetti, as well as two intensive care specialists, a cardiologist and an ear, nose and throat specialist as well as two nurses."

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44 posted on 03/31/2005 11:19:09 PM PST by bd476
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To: SolomoninSouthDakota
"I am not a catholic but this Pope will go down in history as one of the greatest Popes in history. He has spent his entire life in the service of others. " I have no doubt that the Church will be referring to him as Great (as in Leo the Great, Gregory the Great...) in a remarkably short while (for Church Time).

I'm not Catholic either, I'm Methodist, but I do respect the Pope greatly and am saddened by this news. Here is a link to a Bloomberg update mentioning septic shock. http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000087&sid=a37Nampa4t_0&refer=top_world_news

45 posted on 03/31/2005 11:20:20 PM PST by rdl6989
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To: jpsb

What a day!!
I am so heartsick, I am not ready to let go of that man. This is like losing my father. There is so much goodness in JPII. I pray he remembers us when he goes into the Kingdom of God.


46 posted on 03/31/2005 11:20:21 PM PST by SolomoninSouthDakota (Daschle is gone.)
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To: bd476


Media have been burying him off and on for months.

He'll go when God calls him and not a minute sooner.


47 posted on 03/31/2005 11:20:32 PM PST by onyx (Robert Frost "Good fences make good neighbors." Build the fence, Mr. President and Congress.)
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To: SolomoninSouthDakota

oops, I didn't see the septic shock on the post before.


48 posted on 03/31/2005 11:21:58 PM PST by rdl6989
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To: rdl6989

Thanks, I am at the verge of tears. It sounds like this is truly serious. My admiration for John Paul II is nearly unbounded.


49 posted on 03/31/2005 11:22:07 PM PST by SolomoninSouthDakota (Daschle is gone.)
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To: bd476

Prayers for our beloved Pope.


50 posted on 03/31/2005 11:23:01 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: onyx
Onyx wrote: "He'll go when God calls him and not a minute sooner."

That's a very good reminder of faith, Onyx, one which we all can use right now.

Thank you Onyx.

51 posted on 03/31/2005 11:23:41 PM PST by bd476
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To: SolomoninSouthDakota

God bless him

52 posted on 03/31/2005 11:24:06 PM PST by kingattax (If you're cross-eyed and dyslexic, can you read all right ?)
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To: kingattax

Thanks, he of course is (apparently) soon headed for a far better off place. Anyone can see that he deserves better than this world has to offer.


53 posted on 03/31/2005 11:27:54 PM PST by SolomoninSouthDakota (Daschle is gone.)
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To: SolomoninSouthDakota

It is sad that in what might be his last days Terri happened. I think that if the Pope was younger and stronger he might have been able to exorcise that daemon.I hope his successor is able to take on the evils spreading Thu this earth. The task of the next pope is daunting.


54 posted on 03/31/2005 11:31:42 PM PST by jpsb
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To: bd476

My Dad, about the age of the pope, had heart failure a few years ago.

He's preparing at this point to head for Arizona in a motor home.

People DO recover.


55 posted on 03/31/2005 11:32:10 PM PST by JennysCool (Support bacteria - they're the only culture some people have.)
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The New York Times

Pope in 'Very Grave' Condition After Suffering a Heart Attack

By IAN FISHER


Published: April 1, 2005

OME, April 1 - The condition of Pope John Paul II was "very grave," the Vatican said on Friday morning, and he had been given last rites after suffering heart failure on Thursday.

But the pope, 84, whose health has taken a steep dive in the last two months, had decided himself not to go to the hospital, and on Friday morning he was still "conscious, lucid and tranquil," his chief spokesman, Dr. Joaquin Navarro-Valls said in a statement.

This latest health crisis - only a day after doctors fitted him with a feeding tube - was set off on Thursday by a urinary tract infection. That infection, the Vatican said on Thursday, caused a high fever in the already frail and weakened pope, who has suffered for more than a decade from Parkinson's disease.

Doctors began treating him with antibiotics at his apartment in the Vatican, and Vatican Radio reported overnight that the Pope was responding well and that his condition appeared to have stabilized.

But the new Vatican announcement on Friday morning made it clear that the John Paul II, the 264th pope and one of the longest serving in history, was close to death.

It said that he had suffered "septic shock with cardiovascular collapse." The statement added that the pope "co-celebrated" mass at 6 P.M. on Thursday with the Vatican secretary of state, Cardinal Angelo Sodano and others.

The last time he is known to have been administered last rites was on May 13, 1981, after he was shot by a would-be assassin in St. Peter's Square, almost three years after he was chosen pope.

Rumors of another serious health crisis began circulating late on Thursday afternoon, and by this morning, the pitch of worry around the Vatican and among the faithful was high, after a Holy Week in which he was too sick to attend any of the ceremonies except for mass on Easter Sunday. Even then he was so weak that no words came out of his mouth when he tried to deliver his traditional blessing from the window of his apartment of St. Peter's Square.

Pope in 'Very Grave' Condition After Suffering a Heart Attack

Published: April 1, 2005 (Page 2 of 2) Late on Thursday, as news spread that pope's life may be in danger, pilgrims began flowing to St. Peter's Square, at once worried about his condition but relieved for him too that his long suffering and illness might soon be over.

"He'll finally be at peace," said James Butler, 16, part of group of students from Dublin visiting Rome, who arrived at the Vatican just after midnight on Thursday to pay their respects.

On Wednesday, in his most recent public appearance, he again tried to speak, but also failed. Hours later, the Vatican announced that doctors had threaded a feeding tube through his nose and into his stomach to ensure that he was properly nourished. The news came in the first medical statement from the Vatican in more than two weeks and, unlike a string of earlier, more upbeat reports, it characterized the pope's recovery as "slow."

After months of what seemed relatively stable health, the pope's condition has declined since Feb. 1, when he was admitted to Gemelli hospital suffering from flu, fever and spasms of the throat that caused severe problems breathing. He was discharged on Feb. 10, but was taken back to the hospital two weeks later with similar symptoms. That night, doctors performed a tracheotomy to assist his breathing.

Doctors said that urinary tract infections are usually treatable, but that the pope's age and advanced illness could present complications.

Dr. Harry Fisch, professor of clinical urology at Columbia University Medical Center in New York, said such infections in men the pope's age typically come from the prostate "and they can be severe."

"These infections tend to be readily treatable with antibiotics," Dr. Fisch said. "They are normally not life-threatening, but in the elderly and debilitated, they can be. The fever won't drop immediately. It can take a day."

Dr. Fisch said that a catheter - a tube inserted into the bladder of bed-bound patients to drain urine - can make such infections worse. The Vatican has not said whether the pope has a catheter.

Doctors said that infections often caused a drop in blood pressure - and several unconfirmed news reports said that the pope was in fact suffering from a drop in blood pressure, a development doctors said could lead to decreased levels of consciousness.

Just after midnight, the entrance to St. Peter's Square was ringed by dozens of television cameras and journalists, as well as pilgrims and tourists peering up to the window of the papal apartments, where John Paul II made his most recent, pained appearances.

The light in the apartment was shut off around 11 p.m., later than the pope's usual bedtime. But a light in a room with medical equipment remained on past midnight.

Unlike in other recent health crises, Italian television switched its programming to extensive coverage not only of the status of the pope's health, but of his life and legacy.

Elisabeth Rosenthal of The International Herald Tribune and Jason Horowitz contributed reporting for this article.

56 posted on 03/31/2005 11:32:18 PM PST by bd476
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James Hill for The New York Times
At St. Peter's Square on Thursday, a woman held
a candlelight vigil to pray for Pope John Paul II,
whose health seemed to be worsening.

57 posted on 03/31/2005 11:41:09 PM PST by bd476
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To: bd476

Sadly, it appears the end is near for the Pope.


58 posted on 03/31/2005 11:45:00 PM PST by ladyinred
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To: ladyinred

Pope John Paul II will go down in history as one of the greatest Popes.


59 posted on 03/31/2005 11:48:33 PM PST by flaglady47 (O)
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To: newzjunkey

who might be in line next / Anyone know..Such a great man the Pope is ...


60 posted on 03/31/2005 11:49:07 PM PST by hineybona
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