"Where there is life there is hope!" - Terri Schiavo
Posted on 03/21/2005 10:55:04 AM PST by cainin04
Rush just read a statement from a lawyer who was in the room with Terry Schiavo at the time the feeding tube was removed. It was a very moving story. I do not have a link to the story and can not find it on the net.
But if this lawyer is telling the truth, and I have no reason not to believe her, it would be big evidence in this case.
If someone can provide a link, please help!
Count me in with you, boy are you going to get the hate mail just as I have but right is right.
That sums it up perfectly. If everyone just drags their feet long enough, she'll starve, and be a moot point.
I don't believe that it was a hoax letter. I believe it was BEFORE the tube came out. I received a copy of it yesterday in my email. WIll have to sort back through and find it.
Heard Rush the first hour, he was doing a fabulous job of defending her.
I personally don't give a damn about what a public that doesn't know the facts other than what the MSM has stated has to say. Nor do they have the right to determine if she lives anymore than a judge.
I totally agree with you.
I do not understand why a lawyer was not appointed to act in Terri's interest, and to sue for divorce on the basis of adultery. That's a pretty open and shut affair, considering that their are two children to prove the fact of the adultery.
There must be a reason that route to save her was not taken, but what it might be I haven't a clue. Help!
> I do not think that the patient's parroting the words, "I want, I want" tells us anything.
Au contraire, because the statement Atty. Barbara Weller posed to Terri was "..., if you would just say, 'I want to live,'...". There's no mention of the starvation option which Terri has experienced twice before. So it does not logically follow that she was trying to affirm a wish to die. For that, all she would have to do is remain silent. She was trying to communicate something, and a wish to live is the only logical, reasonable presumption -- in response to the sole concept posed to her.
> In fact this does not go contrary to what one would expect to see in her vegetative state.
Actually it does, because in a vegatative state, the vegatative individual supposedly lacks awareness and certainly an incapability of generating such a forceful auditory reaction to that statement. The mere fact that she had a reaction demonstrates her awareness of her situation. Thus, the judicial categorization that she's existing in a vegetative state is completely in error and cause of much of this current actual and potentially greater monstrous (final solution) injustice.
[An additional point about a PVS patient in cainin04's post immediately following yours. From the Recovery description, "More difficulties with eye tracking may come into play because of the possibility of other neurological or ophthalmological damage that may prevent a patient from tracking stimuli." Dr. Hammesfahr put in his report about Terri that she is legally blind and cannot see things clearly unless they are very close to her -- say within 18" to 24" from her face.]
> My understanding is that the husband has not allowed any recent filming of Terri.
Absolutely true, along with violating Greer's court order allowing Terri's bio family unfetter access to her in these final days. Last Friday, when the tube was removed, it was reported that HINO ordered Terri's parents and other visitors to leave and they were barred for about four hours. HINO Court order violations are OK with Greer -- he does nothing. But let parties interested in Terri's right to life commit what HINO deems violations and Greer comes down hard.
> I'm suspect of all sides of this case and still feel the underline issue is money. The husband stands to get millions in book, movie, etc. rights.
Atty. George Felos has a book on the "right to die" issue ready for publication. It's publication is dependent on when Terri dies.
At present Felos is paid $10K to $15K per speaking engagement about the "right to die" issue (read Terri's situation). HINO would undoubtedly profit as well, although any profit-making avenues are not being publicly discussed at this time.
Terri's parents have reportedly exhausted their retirement funds and every available penny to prevent HINO from killing their daughter.
> If it did not reach a media frenzy Congress wouldn't give hoot about her or cases like hers.
At the least awareness of her situation would never have risen high enough for congressional notice.
That's a funny thing to say given the fact that you FReepmailed me your foul mouthed nonsense and after I told you not to FReepmail me anymore you did it again.
"Where there is life there is hope!" - Terri Schiavo
There must be a reason that route to save her was not taken, but what it might be I haven't a clue. Help!
If Michael was an honest husband, he would have divorced Terri ages ago. If Terri had an honest guardian, a divorce would have been filed on her behalf ages ago. Unfortunately, Michael is able to use his position as guardian to prevent Terri from filing a divorce even though one would certainly be in her best interest. That Judge Greer refuses to acknowledge that this creates a severe conflict between Terri's interest and Michael's should lend some light on his level of bias in this case.
No, I heard Barbara Weller speak of this incident. The POLICE made her leave the room but Terri definitely blurted out that she wanted to LIVE!!!!! The POLICE heard it but then denied it. Want wicked wicked people these are.
AMEN Paula. Matthew said it pretty clearly didn't he??
I think we're talking about 2 separate incidents. I think
the Barbara Weller event where Terri said "I WAAAAAAAA" louldly was at least an hour, more like 2 hours IIRC before her tube was removed.
And I think I recall the Schindlers where kicked out for the actual tube-pulling. Only Michael's family was there I believe.
ALso the Schindlers say they are nearly strip-searched in an elaborate process when they go in, so they couldn't have brought in a recording device.
You best believe that for that THUG husband, this is about NOTHING BUT MONEY and getting rid of evidence (Terri herself)!! This is so CLEAR. He's NOT a proper Guardian. He has broken all of and more of the rules for Guardians. He doesn't love that woman, he HATES her. She is ruining his "planned life" of wealth. He stood before a Court and PROMISED to look after her and was granted a huge settlement which he promised to use for HER REHABILITATION. Soon as he got the money he STOPPED ALL REHAB. ALL OF IT!! He's been neglecting her ever since. There are nurses Affidavits of his cruelty. This ABSOLUTELY MUST BE HEARD by a DECENT Judge (If there is such a thing)!!
That's terrible then. This entire family has been abused beyond belief.
> feeding tubes are pulled every day on patients to allow them to die. Where is your outcry on that?
You don't provide any information about the circumstances surrounding why many patients feeding tubes are pulled. Often when patients are terminal (which Terri is not!!) their bodies actually reject the introduction of food. Feeding tubes at that point (likely within a few days of death) are counter-productive.
> Or does somehow having written permission make it all right for you.
Written permission demonstrates a person's knowing agreement. That is totally lacking here.
> Basically most of the folks I know are rock solid conservatives and to every last one they think this whole matter is up for her legal guardian to decide and no else.
There are also laws in every jurisdiction preventing persons with conflicts from serving as legal guardians.
There are countless facts demonstrating that HINO is enormously conflicted and should not be exercising life and death power over Terri. Do the folks you know have knowledge of the many legitimate questions swirling around this agressive man who may be have caused her disability?
Those who want Terri starved to death are destroying evidence (Terri herself) to cover their behinds. If Terri lives, they are in big deep dark doo doo.
Yes , absolutely. If only terri could speak...if only Michael would have let the nurses and physical therapost work on her clenched hands ,regain muscle control ,perhaps she could write a message ...
A husband who professes to have his wifes best interest at heart is fighting to his death to see HIS last wish carried out ( Terri's Death) , has fought so that Terri would indeed suffer further ,by not allowing the simple everyday normal things in life to be enjoyed by Terri ( Fresh air and sunshine) . Who in the name of God can profess to say they are disraught over their wife's condition and want her suffering to end when all Michaels restrictions and actions on Terri have shown that in fact ,it is he himself whom has caused atleast the last 14 years of suffering! Stopping parents from seeing their daughter...Parents who bring a smile and laughter everytime Terri see's them ....Stopping this because they wanted video's of their daughter in the news, so that the world could see that Terri is not a vegetable as media stated ....but yet a person who by questionable reason is dehabilitated by acts that medical evidence ( Possible trama) has occured ?
The contradictions stare most of us right in the face ,yet there are those in higher places who fail to see this evidence ,by their own choice ,since it has become a power struggle gain !
I hope the one who is higher then all of us step's in and leads this case in the proper direction....and yesterday was not soon enough!
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