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FDR Responsible for Prolonging - Not Ending - Great Depression, Say UCLA Researchers
economics department at ucla ^ | ? | Harold L. Cole and Lee E. Ohanian

Posted on 03/17/2005 8:05:25 AM PST by ken21

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To: ken21

Good post/thread bump


41 posted on 03/17/2005 8:32:06 AM PST by pt17
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To: ken21
Roosevelt’s role in lifting the nation out of the Great Depression has been so revered

Only by left-wing socialist nutcakes. What finally ended the Great Depression was World War II and its attendant production boom, in spite of rather than in concert with FDR's idiotic New Deal programs.

Socialists are so stupid.

42 posted on 03/17/2005 8:32:13 AM PST by Marauder (I drink to make other people more interesting.)
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To: Rate_Determining_Step
great book
43 posted on 03/17/2005 8:32:17 AM PST by Capitalism2003
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To: SittinYonder

Look, they're talking about your favorite president (not).


44 posted on 03/17/2005 8:33:23 AM PST by eyespysomething (It starts off as a drum circle, next thing you know you've got a college.)
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bookmark


45 posted on 03/17/2005 8:33:44 AM PST by AnOldCowhand (The west is dead. You may lose a sweetheart, but you will never forget her - Charles Russell)
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To: Dead Corpse
Too many people on both sides of the political isle are making big bank and grabbing lots of power with the way things are though.

We've got a supposedly conservative Republican administration, and they've got their lawyers in front of the USSC defending Wickard v Filburn now.

46 posted on 03/17/2005 8:35:39 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: DoctorMichael

Indeed, he completely blasted the Keynesian tactics used (badly) in that book.


47 posted on 03/17/2005 8:35:56 AM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: ken21

John Flynn spelled this out in detail in 1948, so it isn't revisionist history, and you can read his book for free:
The Roosevelt Myth
http://www.rooseveltmyth.com/book/hbzfrm.htm


48 posted on 03/17/2005 8:36:05 AM PST by Undecided
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To: BenLurkin

Right. World War II was optional, the US could have sat it out. I bet you believe in the Easter Bunny too.


49 posted on 03/17/2005 8:38:52 AM PST by Big Digger (I)
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To: Maria S
Well it is accurate to say that FDR could walk on water just as easily as he could walk on dry land.

Worst president ever.

50 posted on 03/17/2005 8:39:09 AM PST by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: Big Digger
You miss my point - by a wide margin too.

But I will say this though: we definitely could have sat out the FIRST World War.
51 posted on 03/17/2005 8:40:27 AM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: Big Digger
If FDR had done the right things from 1933-1940, WWII need never have unfolded the way it did.

He only seems to have started to really care about what was going on when his precious Soviet Union was threatened.

52 posted on 03/17/2005 8:41:27 AM PST by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: tacticalogic
"Supposedly" is correct. Socially conservative. Fiscally LIBERAL. When it comes to the size of government, liberal as hell.

While I fully support the President on his foreign policy, especially in regards to Iraq and the WoT, he is making every one of my worst fears come true on a domestic level. From border control, entitlement programs, and on to his "managed economy" policies that have only managed to not be a dissaster through sheer luck.

53 posted on 03/17/2005 8:42:32 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Sooner or later, you have to stand your ground. Whether anyone else does or not. - Michael Badnarik)
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To: ken21

Glad to see the "professionals" finally getting into the act. Friedman won a Nobel prize in 1976 in part for his work on the Depression and how the Fed screwed up the money supply, helping to prevent recovery. The regulatory effects of the NRA and other (unconstitutional) legislation pushed by FDR clearly had an effect as well. Raising the price of labor through minimum wage laws in the face of oversupply of labor sure didn't move things in the right direction. When I was in college in the 70's I studied History and Economics. The historians gave the Keynesian gobeldygook answer about the Depression. The economists at least had some tantalizing speculations about how the regulatory effect of the New Deal was harmful to recovery. Now, after the fact, I know they must have been reading Friedman.


54 posted on 03/17/2005 8:43:04 AM PST by RKV ( He who has the guns, makes the rules.)
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To: ken21

I used to think doing something was better than doing nothing (which Hoover was accused of doing) during the Depression but now I see it would have been much better if Roosevelt had done nothing.

This has been a bad year for Roosevelt's legacy proving again that it sucks to be a Democrat.


55 posted on 03/17/2005 8:43:56 AM PST by An American In Dairyland
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To: wideawake

"He only seems to have started to really care about what was going on when his precious Soviet Union was threatened." BINGO!


56 posted on 03/17/2005 8:44:35 AM PST by RKV ( He who has the guns, makes the rules.)
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To: Big Digger

His point wasn't that WWII was optional - that's another debate, the issue is that Roosevelt campaigned for a third term, breaking precedent, on the premise of being the only one able to keep us out of the war.


57 posted on 03/17/2005 8:49:45 AM PST by Undecided
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To: ken21

Thomas Woods, in his recent book "The Politically Incorrect Guide to American History" makes the same claim.


58 posted on 03/17/2005 8:50:46 AM PST by jackbill
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To: wideawake
He only seems to have started to really care about what was going on when his precious Soviet Union was threatened.

Ridiculous. He was doing a heck of a lot to support Britain when the Soviet Union was still part of the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact. The Lend-Lease Act, beginning of the draft in the US, the US escorting convoys in the Atlantic and attacking U-Boats, were all BEFORE Germany invaded Russia.

59 posted on 03/17/2005 8:51:31 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: RKV
"He only seems to have started to really care about what was going on when his precious Soviet Union was threatened." BINGO!

Unfortunately that claim is nonsense.

60 posted on 03/17/2005 8:52:00 AM PST by Strategerist
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