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The Lemba (The Black Jews Of Southern Africa)
The Free Man Institute ^ | 3-14-2005

Posted on 03/14/2005 6:53:09 PM PST by blam

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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; ...
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21 posted on 03/15/2005 5:12:58 AM PST by SJackson (Be careful -- with quotations, you can damn anything, Andre Malraux)
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To: Clemenza

That explains why he was a communist.


22 posted on 03/15/2005 8:49:57 AM PST by Defiant (This tagline has targeted 10 journalists intentionally, that I personally know of.)
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To: Defiant

I did not know that Yaphet was a communist, although I knew he was a lib.


23 posted on 03/15/2005 8:51:08 AM PST by Clemenza (Alcohol Tobacco & Firearms: The Other Holy Trinity)
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To: blam

I saw that as well, and it was very interesting. I did notice in a sidebar remark by the host that tourism, which used to be the core of the Zimbabwean economy, has dried up almost completely.

I was rather impressed by the moves that Mugabe made initially to bring together elements of Shona and Matabele, which have been warring off an on for centuries. What has happened in the recent past, with the slaughter of whites (who were assured protection by Mugabe), the resulting land grabs, mass starvation along political and tribal lines, 35% HIV postive rate, etc., has led to a Rwanda-in-the-making. For those interested, here's a somewhat dated article with a straightforward perspective on Zimbabwe:

http://www.etherzone.com/2002/lamp121702.shtml


24 posted on 03/15/2005 9:00:37 AM PST by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired...)
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To: Clemenza

He may not formally be a commie, but like Jane Fonda, has supported every communist cause that has come down the pike, more leftist than even your average Hollywood moonbat.


25 posted on 03/15/2005 9:08:14 AM PST by Defiant (This tagline has targeted 10 journalists intentionally, that I personally know of.)
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To: blam

Thanks. I watched that program last night. I was going to do some research on the net on this topic today. I guess you did it for me. :)


26 posted on 03/15/2005 9:12:12 AM PST by CollegeRepublican (South Park, Simpson's loving Republican here!!)
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To: Defiant
That explains why he was a communist.

What expains it?

27 posted on 03/15/2005 9:31:57 AM PST by Bella_Bru (You're about as funny as a case sensitive search engine.)
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To: Clemenza
He was great on the show Homicide.
28 posted on 03/15/2005 9:32:30 AM PST by Bella_Bru (You're about as funny as a case sensitive search engine.)
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To: blam


Symbolically, even their flag is black.

29 posted on 03/15/2005 9:35:55 AM PST by OESY
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To: blam

I like Digging for the Truth on the History Channel too. That Josh is a cutie! ;)


31 posted on 03/15/2005 9:53:48 AM PST by Chani (If it isn't in Texas, you probably don't need it.)
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To: OESY

Are you trying to say that all Jews are traitors? Wanna back that up?


32 posted on 03/15/2005 10:39:29 AM PST by Bella_Bru (You're about as funny as a case sensitive search engine.)
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To: Bella_Bru

The leaders of the communist movement in prewar US, and the majority of the red diaper babies in the 20s-40s were Jewish immigrants, most of them Eastern European. For a black American to get in with that crowd, as Yaphet was, it becomes understandable that his mother was Jewish. Dig a little bit, and I bet you will find that his mother was an activist, and that young Yaphet was indoctrinated at an early age.


33 posted on 03/15/2005 11:07:00 AM PST by Defiant (This tagline has targeted 10 journalists intentionally, that I personally know of.)
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To: Defiant

Well, I guess we can also smear all Christians as some of them claimed to be Christian as well, right?


34 posted on 03/15/2005 11:08:22 AM PST by Bella_Bru (You're about as funny as a case sensitive search engine.)
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No, we can't smear all Christians because some who were born Christian converted to Communism. Neither can we smear Jews simply because the majority of its proponents in the US and its leading exponents abroad (Marx, e.g.) were Jewish. No one is doing that.

Over the course of history, a small percentage of Jews became out and out communists. That does not mean that Jews were not paramount in the movement, because the Communist party never had a large number of adherents in the US--just powerful ones. It just means that idealistic and somewhat alienated immigrants from a tradition and culture that was more collectivist and urban were more prone to identify with an ideology that had as its aim the replacement of American democracy with something else. I don't condemn them too much for their views, it developed out of a naive brand of concern for the social welfare that was admirable. However, once the crimes of Stalin became known, you could not excuse those who identified with the communists. By the late 1930s, communists were no longer idealists, but wannabe tyrants, people who wanted to tear down the US and run it themselves as a dictatorship.

In any event, Christians bought into it, too, but in percentage terms, Jews were much more likely to be involved in communist politics, and a much higher percent of the Communist movement than other ethnic groups.

35 posted on 03/15/2005 11:26:50 AM PST by Defiant (This tagline has targeted 10 journalists intentionally, that I personally know of.)
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To: Defiant

Thanks for the explanation. At first glance, it appeared that your comment was saying Jewish=Communist.


36 posted on 03/15/2005 11:36:38 AM PST by Bella_Bru (You're about as funny as a case sensitive search engine.)
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To: blam

bttt


37 posted on 03/15/2005 11:58:20 AM PST by Lijahsbubbe
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To: blam

mark to read later, missed it last night


38 posted on 03/15/2005 11:59:09 AM PST by eyespysomething (Vous pouvez vous rendre au garde de securite!)
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To: SunkenCiv

I saw this last night and found it fascinating.


39 posted on 03/15/2005 12:07:26 PM PST by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
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