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To: ElPatriota

This schism is exactly the goal of the liberal movement.

The real issue is too follow the money, here the property holdings alone of ECUSA exceeds $2 Billion, then there are foundations and investments.

Andrew Sullivan on C-Span stated that homosexual acceptance would not occur until the homosexual lobby had control of a mainstream religion and its resources.


8 posted on 02/25/2005 8:18:08 AM PST by ijcr (Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps.)
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To: ijcr

Bingo. Am I the only one who recalls parishioners locked out of their own churches for refusal to "adhere" to the new schizm within the church, of course, their latest is to ordain an open homosexual. Yes, they were thereby, "sanctioning female and gays" able to "seize" churches. The real estate value is awesome to behold.


11 posted on 02/25/2005 8:28:33 AM PST by Alia
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To: ijcr
Yes, I see your point. Unfortunately nothing is as simple as it should be. I confess I don't' know much about religion per se. For instance I don't know what are the 'differences' between Anglicans and Catholics (I am sure there are many).

But in the Catholic church - I thought! - we were pretty well defined in terms of sodomy practices. It's a SIN, period. Not only a sin, but a major sin, because it attempts to 'promote' it among society at large.

It's only now, or so it seems, the CC has becoming so wishy washy on many areas and to no surprise, we have found out the CC has been infiltrated with perverts of different types for years now, which brings me back to the pope, whom I used to admire deeply. Why did he not TAKE ANY ACTION against what everyone knew (ther pletny of rumors) had been going on for so many years. Why????? is my questions.

Can anyone explain to me why would a father allow his children to be abused and do nothing?
14 posted on 02/25/2005 8:36:52 AM PST by ElPatriota
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To: ijcr
the property holdings alone of ECUSA exceeds $2 Billion, then there are foundations and investments

It would be interesting to do a study of this. But I suspect that the invested capital is probably not enough, by itself, to maintain these very expensive churches. Your typical Episcopal church is a stone gothic building of considerable size, probably with slate roof, lead or copper flashing, and all the rest of it. That kind of building can last a long time without maintenance, but when it needs maintenance it can be very expensive. Will it be possible to maintain these buildings without wealthy and substantial congregations?

I used to be an Episcopalian. Your typical congregation used to be the richest people and the oldest families in town. But that is gradually ceasing to be true. Liberal rich people no longer feel that much of a need to attend church or make a show of religion. I think there's a real risk that these folks will take over a huge, expensive network of white elephant churches, while real Christians will move out and build something cheaper for themselves.

People have also said that the Catholic Church is worth trillions. It is, if you count all those art treasures, churches, hospitals, seminaries, colleges, and schools. But they can't be sold, they must be maintained, and the trust funds aren't big enough to do it. You need living and supportive Catholics. Similarly, no matter how wealthy, ECUSA needs living and supportive Episcopalians.

16 posted on 02/25/2005 9:22:28 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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