Posted on 02/23/2005 7:11:28 AM PST by dead
Check out Gary Bates work on the subject.
They're really time machines from the future. One crashed in my backyard when I was 12 and I found its flux capacitor. They're not really aliens, just evolved humans looking for good DNA to revive the human race after the Eugenics Wars decimated everything and turned us all into Carville-clones.
I don't believe that we have been visited by alien civilizations. I would like to see some proof before I do believe that.
I happen to believe that limitations imposed by time and space preclude actual physical contact with an alien civilization, but would welcome proof that I am in error. If contact is as wide-ranging and verifiable as some UFOlogists assert, I don't think a sliver of incontrovertible evidence is an unreasonable request.
I do hold out hope for some contact with an alien intelligence, though I believe that, if it does occur, the same limits of time and space will make that conversation distinctly one-sided. We will detect some alien communications by a long since dead civilization amongst themselves, and will attempt to respond. And in a few hundred million years, some other civilization may hear our response, but our existence as a species will have long since flickered out by then.
I think our universe is likely teeming with intelligent life, each existing in its own little bubble of time and space, with little hope of meaningful conversation outside that circle.
But of course, I could be wrong.
If 90% of the human race survived your eugenics war they'd not need our primitive DNA.
The universe is just too big to only contain one planet of intelligent life....
What planet is that?
Please add me to your UFO ping list :)
At a recent database demonstration a co-worker used a website on UFOs as part of her presentation. I casually joked, "Research for the lunatic fringe."
Shortly later this person, who is noticeably eccentric, e-mailed me a whole diatribe, about how narrow-minded I was and that I insulted her mother, who had received numerous visitations from extraterrestrials. She cited biblical encounters with angels (i.e. Jacob) as an example. In the end she told me, "Open your mind."
Opening my mind is one thing. But letting my brains fall out is something else. While I could accept the existence of unidentified flying objects -- the fact that they're unidentified would not make them, in my opinion, angels. Or that I am so holy for that kind of rapport with them.
As far as religion -- I often wonder why people are quick to dismiss the concept of a Supreme Being, but are quick, in fact eager, to believe in little green men with giant heads. Until anyone has actually seen them, I have to remain skeptical.
In general, I agree with you. Re: a particular point:
"I often wonder why people are quick to dismiss the concept of a Supreme Being, but are quick, in fact eager, to believe in little green men with giant heads."
Look up Quix's posts - they are anything but devoid of such spirituality. Also, AFAIK, they ain't green, they're gray.
;)
The naysayers will probably poopoo this, and remind us all about his "swamp gas" description. It was about a sighting by several co-eds at a school in Michigan.
Well Hynek was misquoted (by the PRESS-imagine that), his statement was (words to the effect)"..it moved like swamp gas". I remember him saying that he had regretted describing the sighting that way.
You mean post 96?
96 96 96 ... how did I screw that up?
I apologize profusely for any confusion.
Okay – in the late 70’s I was an Ordinary Seaman standing bow lookout on the SS Thomson Lykes. It was a little past midnight and the ship was off the Florida Keyes headed for a pickup of ammo in South (I think) Carolina.
It was a great night, cool weather and good visibility. Anyone who has spent time on lookout knows that the weather can change rapidly during your watch and will always carry rain gear/jackets, or suffer the consequences.
I noticed the ship was headed toward a rain squall, and as I was reaching down to put on my rain coat – I saw an odd display of “lighting” in the approaching clouds. I froze in place.
Headed directly toward the ship was something that exited those clouds. What my MIND interpreted it as - was something out of 2001, A Space Odyssey!
A giant Black Monolith. It was approaching at a rapid clip, flipping end over end, slightly off center. It made about 5, or 6 flips and then it was over my ship.
Huge, rectangular in shape, and filled with what appeared to be thousands of stars! It made one more flip before it passed completely over the ship. I could not follow it transit any further as the Ship’s Bridge blocked my view.
I rang the Mate One Watch and asked him if he just seen what flew over our ship. He stated that I probably saw a military aircraft, and I told him if it was a military aircraft it was from Alpha Centauri.
Needless to say, by morning I was the laughing stock of the ship for reporting and talking about what I saw.
Even today, I get chills when I go over just what I THINK I saw that night. I would never call what I saw a UFO, but it was something out of the ordinary.
Thanks for the ping Quix. I had forgot all about it!
Thanks.
Will check the doc out.
Considering the mass of data I've seen, sorted and filed in some rough sense . . . I like to at least pretend I'm fairly balanced in my perspective on the topic, too.
Most of it I hold loosely and wait to see what falls off with some sort of solid confirmation--at least multiple sources over significant time or some sort of serious Godly confirmation.
Anyway--will see by and by!
In 1970/71, Blackbirds were at least occasionally at Okinawa.
Yep, part of the Galaxy Notevenwithyourdick.
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