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Machine Gun Attack - Kingston, New York
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Posted on 02/13/2005 1:18:18 PM PST by sunnysky

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To: spycatcher

Wayne Williams did....

BTW, They haven't said Black male. They said a heavyset male dressed in all black.

Maybe a frustrated ninja?


401 posted on 02/13/2005 2:19:57 PM PST by Chef Dajuan (this ain't rocket science, you know. so use your knob! -emeril lagasse)
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To: elhombrelibre; tabor; archy

"It was a policeman, and he went to help him."

Just as with misreporting of weapons by those unfamiliar, this may be a uniformed mall guard.

But if it's police...I'm sticking with Jewelry store robbery.


402 posted on 02/13/2005 2:20:15 PM PST by Shermy
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To: Strategerist

You discount the reporting that one black male is in custody and the mall and surrounding is in lockdown?


403 posted on 02/13/2005 2:20:16 PM PST by marajade
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To: tabor

What a hero to go help the cop!


404 posted on 02/13/2005 2:20:43 PM PST by Aggie Mama
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To: cripplecreek; COEXERJ145
Some people here will be almost distraught with disappointment if and when (as is likely) it turns out to have nothing to do with Islam

Maybe not. But consider the scenario, gunmen apparently randomly shooting people at a mall. What would the benefit be to gangstas to shoot up the mall? None. They would suffer greatly for no benefit. Drug dealers? Hardly. What result could come other than a harsh crackdown on them? Robbers? They didn't even enter the stores.

Also consider that the likely survivability of such a mall shooting is very low for the shooters, ie a suicide mission. If anyone has any reasonable theory as to why people would do such a thing other than Islam, let's hear it.

405 posted on 02/13/2005 2:20:59 PM PST by Sender (Team Infidel USA)
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To: Diddle E. Squat

Last time I tried to suggest that not every criminal event in the U.S. is related to Islamofacist terrorists from abroad, I was pilloried for weeks.


406 posted on 02/13/2005 2:21:12 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: Chef Dajuan

"They said a heavyset male dressed in all black."

"Maybe a frustrated ninja?"

Stop it...I hate laughing when I'm trying to be serious.


407 posted on 02/13/2005 2:21:16 PM PST by Arpege92 (Mr. Kerry, you are a jerk!" - Pat Sajak)
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To: 7.62 x 51mm

Unless you're a trained LE official and with direction I feel that would just create a more unsafe situation.


408 posted on 02/13/2005 2:21:47 PM PST by marajade
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To: GaltMeister

"Next report will reveal that all three of the shooters were cigarette smokers, and they drove to the mall in an SUV."

AND according to the gal that works at the GAP in the mall, she said one of the gunmen was.....GASP....overweight! I'm not sure the call was for real.....she sounded mighty perky for someone hiding from gunmen in a mall.


409 posted on 02/13/2005 2:22:04 PM PST by PilloryHillary (Can vegetarians eat animal crackers?)
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To: sunnysky

Fox News website:
KINGSTON, N.Y. — At least two gunmen opened fire Sunday inside a mall in upstate New York, authorities said.
The gunmen began shooting inside the Hudson Valley Mall in Kingston, about 52 miles south of Albany. One gunman was taken into police custody.
Mayor James Sottile said at least one person was hurt and taken by helicopter to a hospital.
Authorities restricted access to the mall, and several helicopters and police teams surrounded the area.


410 posted on 02/13/2005 2:22:08 PM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: Sender

I'm just waiting for things to shake out and see where the story goes at this point.


411 posted on 02/13/2005 2:22:19 PM PST by cripplecreek (they call me tater.)
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To: sunnysky
DUmmies make me sick. Some of them have turned this tragedy into an opportunity to b***h about police brutallity. I wish I didn't lose my posting privelages there already so I could lose them now. Jerk-offs.

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They got one shooter...You know their beating the shit out of him to get him to give up his comrades. I was an LA cop for 22 years. This kid would be very near death if he's not talking! It ain't pretty but that's the wy it's got to be sometimes.

Thugs, thugs, thugs,On both sides of the badge, yes?

I worked my way through college in the mid 1960s as a cop and saw some horrible things. Most of them were pretty decent, but there were quite a few sadistic bastards who would brag about "thumping" someone from time to time. (This was in Tulsa)...

412 posted on 02/13/2005 2:22:46 PM PST by JCRoberts (I am Keyser Soze)
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To: Chef Dajuan
Maybe a frustrated ninja?

Mall Ninja?

413 posted on 02/13/2005 2:22:47 PM PST by umgud
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To: Sender
Also consider that the likely survivability of such a mall shooting is very low for the shooters, ie a suicide mission. If anyone has any reasonable theory as to why people would do such a thing other than Islam, let's hear it.

Mental Illness?

There have been a variety of mass close range shootings in public places in the US (Remember that McDonald's) and none of them have had anything to do with Islam.

414 posted on 02/13/2005 2:22:50 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: BJungNan

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1342423/posts?page=347#347


415 posted on 02/13/2005 2:22:50 PM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: cripplecreek

Ditto


416 posted on 02/13/2005 2:22:57 PM PST by hoosiermama (It's more than an election...It's a change of heart....an enlightenment....life is important)
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To: sunnysky

Wow, and I just recently finished that Clancy novel where the terrorists shoot up innocents in a shopping mall(s).


417 posted on 02/13/2005 2:23:14 PM PST by Radix (If I thought your Tag Line was better than mine, I wouldn't be using this one!)
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To: Shermy

Why would a robber randomly start shooting upon entry? I don't think that makes sense. Admittedly, we're dealing with first reports, but robbers want the loot first and foremost, not a bloodbath.


418 posted on 02/13/2005 2:23:20 PM PST by elhombrelibre (Liberalism is proof that intelligent people can ignore as much as the ignorant.)
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To: anniegetyourgun

It does seem like sometimes the most ignorant and foolish scream and spam the loudest on this site...


419 posted on 02/13/2005 2:23:37 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Stentor
May have to reconsider my 2in Taurus Model 80. Wouldn't have taken on someone with an automatic weapon until I ran out of running space.

Your Taurus 80 will do fine, though a reload or two is advisable, and kevlar undies are helpful. Shoot any goblins with an AutoWeapon from behind, with a headshot if possible; repeat as necessary. Use such cover and concealment as is available, and movement if that's an option. Beware doughnut munchers upset with you for messing with their monopoly franchise, and for off-duty cops pulling crimes.

420 posted on 02/13/2005 2:23:46 PM PST by archy (The darkness will come. It will find you,and it will scare you like you've never been scared before.)
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