We don't have quite the same problem in this area.
Our population went from 200 million to 300 million in the last 35 years. It is expected to top 500 million by 2050. Our population is increasing, Europe's is declining.
Great, 500 million by 2050! Perfect, and when the bulk of those are retirement age, we will only need to import another 500 million young workers to pay for THEIR retirement and other benefits. Then we will be to an even 1 Billion. And then . . ?
As to the squabble between John and Amrican, both of you have interesting experiences to share. Sometimes an outsider can see what an insider can't.
Tyson
Of course the other half of that problem is the universal political tactic of promising the impossible to the incurably gullible in order to remain in power.