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Winning over the Hillary haters
Financial Review ^ | Dec 7, 2004 | Raymond Hernandez

Posted on 12/06/2004 9:29:20 AM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection

In a race for the US presidency, Hillary Rodham Clinton faces a problem that has dogged her since her days as first lady: an entrenched bloc of voters who simply do not like her. And her experience as a senator in New York shows that despite vigorous campaigning around the state since taking office, she remains an extremely polarising figure who is unable to sway these voters to her side.

One poll after another shows that roughly one in three New Yorkers has an unfavourable opinion of her, a statistic that has not changed since she took office in 2001.

Nationally, her standing is worse, even as her aides prepare for what is emerging as a possible bid for president in 2008. Roughly four out of 10 Americans disapprove of her, according to a recent poll by the Marist College Institute for Public Opinion.

The voters who disapprove of the former first lady are numerous and unshakable, and they have been around so long that they even have a name in political circles - Hillary haters.

She offered a revealing answer when asked recently whether Republicans might be hoping that she becomes the Democratic presidential nominee in 2008, since it would give the Republicans a divisive figure to run against.

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Clinton, who studiously avoids answering questions about her presidential ambitions, quickly responded. "We have a president who is quite polarising, and very successful, I might add," she said during an appearance on NBC's Today.

Her high unfavourability ratings may help explain why a discussion has begun among her advisers over whether she should skip a Senate re-election campaign in 2006 and instead focus all her energies on a race for the White House.

The most obvious challenge that Clinton faces in running for both jobs is a compressed political calendar that leaves her very little room to manoeuvre: the Iowa presidential caucuses are held just 14 months after election day in 2006.

If she sticks to the schedule that John Kerry followed during this presidential election cycle, she would have to give a clear indication of her desire to run for the presidency a mere month after her Senate race is over.

But that seems unlikely, some political analysts say, because the timing would be awkward.

Yet some people close to Clinton maintain that the tight calendar should not be a problem because she is such a big celebrity, and any presidential campaign she embarks on would instantly attract a huge amount of attention.

But other Democrats and independent political strategists say that her celebrity is a double-edged sword: while she does enjoy a level of name recognition other politicians crave, she has earned a reputation that, fairly or not, makes her a polarising figure among moderate swing voters, an important bloc nationally.

"There's work for her to do nationally," Marist Institute director Lee Miringoff says. "Beyond her appeal to the Democratic base, there is a need for her to build bridges to reach out to moderate Republicans and independent voters if she hopes to succeed."

The so-called Hillary haters became a harsh reality of political life for her when she ran for the Senate. Republicans built much of their campaign on trying to tap anti-Clinton sentiments in New York state.

No one factor accounts for the deep misgivings many voters express for Clinton, but to some degree it stems from a view that has taken hold, fairly or not, that she is a hugely ambitious woman with a liberal agenda that was most significantly illustrated in her efforts to overhaul the nation's health-care system during her husband's presidency.

She sought to counteract the damage posed by the anti-Clinton feeling by spending nearly two years travelling around the state in a calculated effort to force voters to re-examine what, if anything, is so objectionable about her.

Many Democrats and independent political strategists contend that she may have to do much the same nationally.

"To be successful nationally, she will have to defuse some of the negative feelings," Miringoff says. "One way to attempt that is to replicate what she did in New York with her listening tour."

A Democratic political strategist on Capitol Hill agrees. "She may have 100per cent name recognition," the strategist says. "But it comes with a certain amount of baggage."

Even after her victory in New York, Clinton has taken nothing for granted, continuing to travel around the state constantly, as if running a perpetual campaign.

The strategy has yielded dividends: her popularity rating among New Yorkers reached a notable 61per cent in September, compared with 38per cent in February 2001, according to a Quinnipiac University Poll.

Her approach has been particularly effective with undecided voters. The number of people who told Quinnipiac pollsters that they had no opinion of her has been dropping - to 7per cent in September from 33per cent in February 2001.

But tellingly enough, her tireless efforts around the state have done little to assuage the misgivings of many. The number of New Yorkers expressing an unfavourable opinion of her has been about the same - roughly one in three - in the 22 polls Quinnipiac University has conducted since 2001.

But her advisers contend that the poll findings have, in fact, been very good news for her, saying that many undecided voters became supporters once they got to know her.

"Show me a poll where she has lost ground," said one Democrat who is close to Clinton. "You can't. They don't exist. She has been gaining supporters both in New York and nationally since she took office by virtue of her hard work."


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To: Spok
Hillary has nice legs

61 posted on 12/06/2004 12:31:33 PM PST by evets (God bless president George W. Bush)
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To: evets

I think that picture was taken the last time she shaved them.


62 posted on 12/06/2004 12:35:50 PM PST by Spok
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To: evets

I think that picture was taken the last time she shaved them.


63 posted on 12/06/2004 12:35:50 PM PST by Spok
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To: speed_addiction

Did you show the secret service guys your ID?


64 posted on 12/06/2004 12:51:34 PM PST by Maceman (Too nuanced for a bumper sticker)
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To: Maceman

"Did you show the secret service guys your ID?"

I was not going to, but then decided to. Kinda like Kerry, I decided to show them my ID, before I decided not to show it to them.


65 posted on 12/06/2004 12:54:57 PM PST by speed_addiction (Ninja's last words, "Hey guys. Watch me just flip out on that big dude over there!")
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To: speed_addiction

wanna see the bus (ping)


66 posted on 12/06/2004 1:03:20 PM PST by investigateworld (( Another Cali refugee in Oregon ))
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To: Old Grumpy
"Roughly four out of 10 Americans disapprove of her . . ."

They really mean democrats...not Americans!

67 posted on 12/06/2004 1:12:54 PM PST by houeto
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To: investigateworld

"wanna see the bus (ping)"

Gonna have to do a little digging. The last time I saw these pictures was before I went to prison. My ex divorced me while I was away and most of my photo albums (including the one from my time in the Army) have never been seen again.


68 posted on 12/06/2004 1:14:16 PM PST by speed_addiction (Ninja's last words, "Hey guys. Watch me just flip out on that big dude over there!")
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To: Ignatz

Sorry, she is not a communist, she is a Marxist. I still wonder why she won't release her Master's Thesis for public consumption. Hmm..... She is a nasty, power-hungry part of the Clinton empire. Unfortunately, she is my senator. Somehow, I have to move to Jesusland and get out of this liberal hell!


69 posted on 12/06/2004 2:15:19 PM PST by nuclady (A)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

A "Hillary Clinton Opposition Research, Archives etc., including the 'Slap Hillary Link' " BUMP!!!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1035840/posts


70 posted on 12/06/2004 3:55:06 PM PST by Pagey (Hillary talking about the bible is as hypocritical as Bill carrying one out of church for 8 years)
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To: smiley

Do you know what Evan Bayh's NRA rating is?


71 posted on 12/06/2004 3:59:59 PM PST by cmsgop
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To: Socrates1
That's just her, before she talks policy

She didn't have to talk policy in 2000. Nor did John Kerry in 2004. Why should '08 be any different?

72 posted on 12/06/2004 4:51:32 PM PST by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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To: cmsgop

Sorry I don't, but his voting record should be accessible somewhere on the senate record...


73 posted on 12/07/2004 4:54:21 AM PST by smiley (Watch out Dems! I'm a William F. Buckley Conservative!!)
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To: nuclady

Thank you for correcting me...and get out of Satanland as fast as you can!! We'll gladly have you here in lovely red-state Indiana.


74 posted on 12/07/2004 10:11:17 AM PST by Ignatz (Strategic Air Command: Peace is our profession...........bombing's just a hobby!)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

The only way she wins is if the GOP runs a RINO like Bob Dole. Why vote for the fake when you can get the real deal ?


75 posted on 12/07/2004 10:15:57 AM PST by John Lenin
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Do we HATE Hillary?

She is a liar, conspiring traitor
and a phony-botoxed-fraud who
wants to rise in power for her own
desire to destroy America.

Nah. We don't hate her.

We want to STOP her, that's all.


76 posted on 12/08/2004 10:53:53 PM PST by reformjoy (You really don't want to call her President, do you? Hitlery, NO WAY.)
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To: Pagey

Great link! Thanks for posting it!


77 posted on 12/08/2004 10:58:20 PM PST by reformjoy (You really don't want to call her President, do you? Hitlery, NO WAY.)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Hate is too mild a term for how I feel about her.


78 posted on 12/08/2004 10:58:54 PM PST by PGalt
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Come on you all know its the
vast right-wing conspiracy


79 posted on 12/08/2004 11:02:53 PM PST by LittleMoe
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

She'll never win over THIS Hillary-hater... The Republicans could nominate a ham sandwich for President, and I would vote for the ham sandwich over Hillary. (The ham sandwich would probably do a better job as President too)


80 posted on 12/08/2004 11:05:04 PM PST by mysto
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