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To: stefanbc

It does mean Muslims must speak up against the jihadists and against the perversion of Islam for evil political ends.

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When do you think the moderates will get around to speaking up? They've had years to do so and thus far they have shown zero inclination. All the clerics are radicalized Islamists. The religion will die (along with all the Muslims), if those who favor death over peace continue to dominate Islam.

-T


110 posted on 11/23/2004 4:03:15 AM PST by timbuck2 ("The true danger is when liberty is nibbled away, for expedients, and by parts." -Edmund Burke)
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To: timbuck2; smcmike

When do you think the moderates will get around to speaking up? They've had years to do so and thus far they have shown zero inclination. All the clerics are radicalized Islamists. The religion will die (along with all the Muslims), if those who favor death over peace continue to dominate Islam.~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Wahhabi death squads patrol the international Muslim community and threaten violence or worse so my guess is there is a great deal of fear amongst moderates. A person can barely argue for the existence of moderate Muslims on this board where we are amongst friends so how much worse do you suppose it is in a community where you can be easily KILLED not just bloviated to 'death'? I think there is great anguish amongst the moderates as they know all this threat is real. I feel sorry for them as they are caught between the radical killers posing as true Muslims and a hostile, fearful West. I am certain this comment will earn me the ire of a few macho men here who deperately need to look like tough guys. IE, those who have a great need to scream: Kill all Muslims, Mohammed is a pervert, nuke Dearborn (that's a classic) bbbbblllllllaaaaahhhhhbbbbbllllaaahhhhh!

>All clerics are radicalized Islamists.

Fortunately not; al-Sistani of Najaf comes to mind. He is no radical but has (my belief) the best interests of the Shi'ite community in mind. The Wahhabis or Ba'athist fascists have attempted to blow him up and failed. Prime example of the death sentence moderates live under. For your interest, and for the other person on this thread who does not think all Muslims are worthy of immediate death here are two links I have found useful:

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=16030

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=16030

>The religion will die (along with all the Muslims), if those who favor death over peace continue to dominate Islam

Sadly I agree and I have practically begged moderates to speak up against the fascist killers. I am no longer willing to be silent while others scream for the non-existence of or death for moderate or ALL Muslims. That's why I'm calling out the radicals on this site to put up or shut up regarding their plans to win the war on terror. Be advised friends: I am not going to take insults instead of arguments, I am not going to accept bigoted blanket statements over reason regarding the nature of Islam or of moderate Muslims. I am going to zot you onto my 'do not reply or waste your breath on this hostile idiot' list if you (they) open a post to me with "Allah = Satan","Death to all Muslims","stefanbc is weenie psychotherapist who is a Muslim wannabe", or "Mohammed is a sorry loser" not to mention my favorite and still in first place, the grand winner in the lunacy sweepstakes: "Nuke Dearborn"

I have established my own personal Anti-Ping list which currently has 7 folks on board for espousing murder of innocents, launching unwarranted personal attacks or spewing the most vile racism and bigotry- all violations of the policy of this site, people. You 7: good bye, losers. For those of you who think this is YOUR site and want me to leave: grow up, answer the questions or shut up.


117 posted on 11/23/2004 9:00:12 AM PST by stefanbc (Have a nice left-wing suicide : hate to be ya)
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