I've hated every movie Stone has ever made, without exception. Especially The Doors, which should have been one of the best movies ever made, but was pathetic. They should've let Kubrik do it.
Ah yes, the good ol' days...
Lived in a more honest time. Huh. And there aren't bisexuals walking the street today? Whatever.
Its called corrupt, not honest, Oliver.
Worse than bad. I went to a pre-screening (radio-station prize thingie) it was so horrible I lect after 30 minutes. I have seen better cinematography on "Americas Funniest Home Video" It is aparent that Stone has had his turn in the spotlight and is trying, ever so hard, to return to the limelight. Alex, is SOOOOOOO bad, I wouldn't even let a DU'er go see it.
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Ahh, Oliver...You're such a refined and erudite gentleman.
Nice to see Stone has such respect for his audience!
This really disappoints me. Being a real history buff, I was looking forward to this movie. Then I discovered it was a Oliver Stone movie. Well, I thought, maybe it will still be good like Salvador (a Stone movie which actually turned out good in large part due to a stellar performance by James Woods.) Now I hear he's really going to push the gay thing. Gee, I just wanted to watch how he conquored the known world by the age of thirty, all in a dramatic fashion. Leave it to Oliver Store to make an historical epoch that even a history buff wouldn't want to see.
I get it, Oliver.
No. It doesn't. The fact is that we don't know. The 'academic' research that claims Alexander was gay/bisexual is about on par with the 'research' that claims Jesus was gay. It is poor science blended with a gay activist agenda.
It is true homo/bisexuality was more common in ancient Greece. Alexander may have been, but there is simply no compelling evidence of it. We simply don't know.
Thanks for the heads up...I'll put this on my list to watch right behind Fahrenheit 911 and some time before hell freezes over.
Saw on the History Channel where Alex's daddy, Philip of Macedonia, discarded his young lover for another young fellow. The discarded lover was dropped into the middle of a bunch of other fellows who raped the fella over and over. So the discarded lover gets his revenge by pulling a knife and sticking it into the gut of ole Philip. And that's how Alex the Queer became King.
Pre-Christian morality?? What a lie! Augustus and Tiberius, the rulers in Christ's day, were decidedly and legislatively anti-homosexual. Moses' statements against homosexuality are clear and unequivocal: "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them." And that was in 1400 B.C., and I do mean B.C.. Even older capital consequences are found in the legal codes of India, Egypt, and Mesopotamia. In every culture I know of and certainly among the barbarians, homosexuality was severely censured and punishable by death. Even in Hellenic Greece and Silver Age Rome, it was a vice primarily of those who had lost their religion (as it is today). Too much education coupled with too little intelligence, too much time coupled with too little talent (to utilize that time), and/or too much liberty (with one's minions) coupled with too little responsibility are among the many prods of mental aberrations. Homosexuality and other full-blown mental illnesses are rife in such situations, and such were the situations in Hellenic Greece, Silver Age Rome, Turn-of-the-Twentieth-Century Britain, and contemporary America. It is not tolerant to confirm the insane in their insanity; it is but a cruel jest. Yet, psychologists who know better must keep silent or lose their accreditation. If Stone actually understands ancient history, then he is culpable. Honestly, though, I think he really is so very ignorant.
I just can't help laughing when I look at Collin Farrell in that ridiculous hairdo. It might be as big of a flop as Heaven's Gate. I certainly hope so. Troy was a huge flop too, wasn't it? These people never learn.
I might mention that while it was more common and more accepted, (maybe not more than the last few years tho) in ancient Greece, it was still the object of derision and looked down on.
I particularly remember reading how the youth, Alcibiades told how Socrates never tried any "funny stuff" with him when he slept in the same bed with Socrates. This was done to defend Socrates, in other words not being homosexual was looked on as a positive trait.
Hey, Ollie - - I get it.
However, I will NOT be getting tickets to your movie, and I will certainly not bother watching it for free if the "opportunity" ever arises.
Poor script; hard to follow what is going on. Too much talking and not enough action. 3 hours was way TOO long for this movie. Kept looking at my watch thinking "what else can they do for another 1.5 hours"!
Timeline skips and bounces around too much. There were only 2 real battle scenes and were so confusing. Most of the time, I couldn't tell which side was which. Or what the strategy of the battle was. Seemed like an endless and pointless conquest. Didn't reall feel anything for any of the characters.
The gay/bisexual undertones would have been OK. Not sure if Alexander was bisexual or this was a figment of Oliver Stones wacky mind.
I would put it at the bottom of all the "historical war epic" type movies I've seen. Braveheart, The Patriot, even Troy were much better films of this genre.
Don't tell ma Oliver Stone sucks!!