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A.D., B.C. - not P.C.
The American Thinker ^ | November 18th, 2004 | Selwyn Duke

Posted on 11/18/2004 10:39:06 AM PST by .cnI redruM

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To: Aquinasfan
It's an attempt to diminish the greatest event in history, the birth of Christ.

You believe that, and I don't. It would be unreasonable of you to expect me to use your nomenclature, and it would be wrong, even hypocritical, for me to do so, because I do not acknowledge Jesus as my Lord. I encourage Christians to use "BC/AD", becuase it is appropriate for them to do so. It is equally inappropriate for someone who is not Christian to use it. One could make the argument that using the terminology without believing what it says is the real diminution of its significance.

161 posted on 11/19/2004 8:18:54 AM PST by malakhi
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To: malakhi
It's an attempt to diminish the greatest event in history, the birth of Christ.

You believe that, and I don't.

You're naive.

It would be unreasonable of you to expect me to use your nomenclature, and it would be wrong, even hypocritical, for me to do so, because I do not acknowledge Jesus as my Lord.

You are in the minority. There is no reason for textbooks to adopt this meaningless, minority nomenclature unless they're writing for non-Christians --or unless they're promoting an agenda.

162 posted on 11/19/2004 8:25:31 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Aquinasfan
You're naive.

No, I'm just not a Christian. Since, as a Jew, I don't believe that Jesus is moshiach, let alone "Lord", it would be wrong for me to use the terms "Before Christ" or "The Year of Our Lord". I understand the significance of Jesus's birth to Christians, but I don't share your beliefs.

There is no reason for textbooks to adopt this meaningless, minority nomenclature

That determination is properly left up to the author and/or publisher.

163 posted on 11/19/2004 8:33:39 AM PST by malakhi
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To: wideawake
So I started saying things like: "When the Temple was destroyed by the Romans in the year of our Lord 70" etc.

You go, dude.

164 posted on 11/19/2004 8:36:33 AM PST by T. Buzzard Trueblood ("Hell, I don't want to meet them sons of bitches." Elvis Presley on the Beatles)
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To: malakhi
No, I'm just not a Christian. Since, as a Jew.

Fine. Use the Jewish calendar. But again, it's ridiculous for textbook publishers to impose a meaningless minority nomenclature on the majority. If I lived in Israel I wouldn't expect to impose a Christian calendar on the culture or neuter their calendar.

165 posted on 11/19/2004 8:51:10 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: TonyRo76

Nice article!


166 posted on 11/19/2004 10:25:53 AM PST by Ronaldus Magnus
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To: Mudboy Slim
We withstood the push to make US go with the Metric System...

Yup, and it's a darned shame. Jefferson got us away from the braindead mixed base money system, and tried to move us to a decimal measurement system of his own design, but Congress didn't act, and so we're stuck with the equally braindead imperial measurement system, with units based on dead kings' feet or arms or whatever.

167 posted on 11/19/2004 10:27:02 PM PST by jejones
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To: Junior
Counting starts at 0 (0-9, 10-19, 20-29, etc.).

Only if you're a C programmer. :) Honest. If you started with zero, you'd think collections have one fewer element than they actually do.

168 posted on 11/19/2004 10:34:33 PM PST by jejones
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To: .cnI redruM
I hated the BCE/CE crap when I was working on my degree in history. It seemed to become popular in academia in the mid to late 1990's. Now just about every pointy-headed "intellectual" has to use it instead of BC/AD. I probably lost a few points and maybe even a few A's for not using BCE/CE in my papers. One history professor even ranted to the class about the one "stubborn, weak minded Christian who won't get out of the 12th century and use the proper terminology and realize how out of date his bogus religion is". Of course he was referring to me and my reply was "Coming from a liberal atheist such as yourself, I take that as a complement but next time show enough guts to use my name if you're going to stand up in front of us and make lame attempts to insult."

As long as I live, I will never use BCE/CE when dating material. Either I'll use nothing or I'll use BC/AD.

169 posted on 11/19/2004 10:37:30 PM PST by COEXERJ145
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To: TonyRo76

The ICR's etymology is every bit as good as their science; that is to say, not at all. I'm sorry, that's as bogus as the etymologies that Afrocentric crackpot came up with to "prove" that the Greek gods were African in origin.


170 posted on 11/19/2004 10:42:01 PM PST by jejones
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To: COEXERJ145
History professors have to be the least professional bunch of wingers on a college campus...
171 posted on 11/20/2004 6:43:40 AM PST by .cnI redruM (Idiots so love to bury a god. - Charles Buckowski)
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To: .cnI redruM
History professors have to be the least professional bunch of wingers on a college campus...

Actually I think that probably goes to political science profs. I had some really good history professors when I was at Texas A&M but the department also had its token jerk who I was unlucky enough to have to deal with for one semester.

172 posted on 11/20/2004 12:13:38 PM PST by COEXERJ145
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To: jejones
"...it's a darned shame."

Our present system may be anachronistic, but it's ours...I simply did not like the way the Metric System was being forced down our throats. It was just too European Union-esque fer me.

FReegards...MUD

173 posted on 11/21/2004 7:22:18 AM PST by Mudboy Slim (RE-IMPEACH the HildaBeast's Hubby!!)
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Thanks .cnI redruM for starting this topic, although I think this may have been threaded before. Anyway, it's going into the GGG catalog, but I'm not going to ping the list. Entry will appear on the weekly digest on Saturday. Found this Googling for Etruscans on FR.
Please FREEPMAIL me if you want on, off, or alter the "Gods, Graves, Glyphs" PING list --
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176 posted on 11/28/2004 9:40:39 AM PST by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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To: Spok

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177 posted on 12/03/2004 5:27:14 PM PST by Al Simmons (THANK YOU SwiftVets/POWs for Truth!!!!!)
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