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Universe's 6,000th birthday ...
Guardian ^ | 22 October 2004 | Radford, Tim

Posted on 10/22/2004 7:22:56 AM PDT by Publius Valerius

Universe's 6,000th birthday ...

Tim Radford Friday October 22, 2004 The Guardian

Britain's geologists are about to celebrate the fact that the universe is exactly 6,000 years old.

At 6pm tonight at the Geological Society of London, scientists will raise their glasses to James Ussher, Archbishop of Armagh (below), who in 1650 used the chronology of the Bible to calculate the precise date and moment of creation.

Working from the book of Genesis, and risking some speculation on the Hebrew calendar, he calculated that it began at 6pm on Saturday October 22, 4004 BC.

Actually, he put the date at October 23, and then pedantically realised that time must have begun the night before, because the Bible said that "the evening and the morning were the first day."

The geologists selected the anniversary for a day-long conference on some of the fakes, frauds and hoaxes that have plagued geological and palaeontological research for centuries. "It's not that we think Archbishop Ussher's date was a fraud," said Ted Nield, the society's communications officer. "It's just that it was spectacularly wrong."

Dr Nield conceded, too, that in toasting the archbishop's calculations the geologists were committing another error. More than 6,000 years have passed since 4004 BC. The symmetry is only apparent. The date is a mere numerological reflection. The real anniversary passed unnoticed, in 1997.


TOPICS: Extended News; Miscellaneous; Philosophy; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: creation; creationism; genesis; origins; universe
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"It's not that we think Archbishop Ussher's date was a fraud," said Ted Nield, the society's communications officer. "It's just that it was spectacularly wrong."

Heh.

1 posted on 10/22/2004 7:22:56 AM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: Publius Valerius

Why do I get the feeling this is the start of a really long thread?


2 posted on 10/22/2004 7:24:58 AM PDT by GallopingGhost (Freedom costs a buck o five)
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To: Publius Valerius

Modern day scientists are never wrong?


3 posted on 10/22/2004 7:25:23 AM PDT by Dallas59 ("A bad peace is even worse than war" -Taticus)
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To: Dallas59

Excuse me..."spectacularly wrong."


4 posted on 10/22/2004 7:26:00 AM PDT by Dallas59 ("A bad peace is even worse than war" -Taticus)
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To: Publius Valerius
Ah, British science does it again.

WAY too much government funding.

5 posted on 10/22/2004 7:26:55 AM PDT by starfish923
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To: GallopingGhost; Buggman
Why do I get the feeling this is the start of a really long thread?

What? You think a thread about the age of the universe is going to start off a creationism vs. evolution debate? Never! < /sarcasm>

6 posted on 10/22/2004 7:26:59 AM PDT by Homo_homini_lupus (The man who reads nothing at all is better educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers.)
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To: GallopingGhost

7 posted on 10/22/2004 7:27:55 AM PDT by Michael Goldsberry (Which part of "Don't Mess With Texas" didn't you get?)
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To: Publius Valerius

I wonder if he included the day that Joshua asked the Lord to keep the sun from setting.


8 posted on 10/22/2004 7:28:52 AM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow (Amos 6:1-7)
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Happy Birthday Universe!


9 posted on 10/22/2004 7:28:54 AM PDT by Alex Murphy (Psalm 73)
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To: GallopingGhost

10 posted on 10/22/2004 7:29:11 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: Publius Valerius
Dr Nield conceded, too, ... The real anniversary passed unnoticed, in 1997.

I noticed it, back then.

11 posted on 10/22/2004 7:29:46 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Never apologise. Never explain)
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To: Homo_homini_lupus

Debate? Naw, I showed up for the party!


12 posted on 10/22/2004 7:29:47 AM PDT by glock rocks (posted from the very heart of Reagan country)
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To: GallopingGhost
Why do I get the feeling this is the start of a really long thread?

Maybe, but there is an election season truce among the ususal suspects. No creation/evolution flame wars.

13 posted on 10/22/2004 7:30:11 AM PDT by js1138 (D*mn, I Missed!)
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To: Publius Valerius

Is my math off or wouldn't the earth be 6008 years old?


14 posted on 10/22/2004 7:30:17 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Jefferson Davis - the first 'selected, not elected' president.)
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To: Publius Valerius

Compared to enternity the age of unviverse is one breath from God.


15 posted on 10/22/2004 7:30:55 AM PDT by Raycpa (Alias, VRWC_minion,)
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To: Publius Valerius
Britain's geologists are about to celebrate the fact that the universe is exactly 6,000 years old.

Huh? 4004 + 2004 = 6007 (minus the zero year). Good grief.

However, I think the time scale may be just a wee bit off. 12 billion years old is a little closer to the mark.

16 posted on 10/22/2004 7:31:01 AM PDT by RadioAstronomer
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To: Publius Valerius

Funny thing about how little science really knows, String theorists can tell you that it is equally valid that the universe is the as big as 13 billion light years in diameter, or no bigger than the size of a single proton. Yet, theology speculation is just spectacularly wrong. It is amazing however, whether you believe in God or in Science...Faith exists in either a Supreme Being or a virtual particle. For me, I'll choose the Supreme Being over the virtual particle any day and question everything else in-between.


17 posted on 10/22/2004 7:31:55 AM PDT by AMHN
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To: Non-Sequitur
Is my math off or wouldn't the earth be 6008 years old?

You forgot there is no year zero.

18 posted on 10/22/2004 7:32:00 AM PDT by RadioAstronomer
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19 posted on 10/22/2004 7:32:53 AM PDT by TheBigB (OPEN YOUR EYES, Clark Kent! You belong with CHLOE!)
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To: Publius Valerius

In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.


20 posted on 10/22/2004 7:33:08 AM PDT by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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