Skip to comments.Crazy Horse strip club draws ire over name
Posted on 10/14/2004 1:03:20 PM PDT by LouAvul
SIOUX FALLS, South Dakota (AP) - Descendants of the storied American Indian warrior Crazy Horse want an upscale Paris strip club to stop using his name, saying it's disrespectful to him and his offspring. The nightclub, Crazy Horse Paris, was established in 1951 and is well-known for adult entertainment similar to that featured at casinos in Las Vegas. It's located near the Champs-Elysees, the Seine River and the Pont de l'Alma bridge, where Lady Diana was killed.
Crazy Horse was an Oglala Sioux warrior known for fighting the U.S. military in the 1800s. One of his descendants and an executor of his estate, Harvey White Woman, has written club owners, asking that they change the name.
He said the request was prompted by an HBO cable television special that featured the club and its dancers wearing what looked to be feathered headdresses, a revered native symbol.
"I saw the name and I said, 'That's not right.' When you say the name Crazy Horse, you don't conjure up nightclubs. You conjure up the warrior," he said in a telephone interview from his home in Kyle on the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation.
White Woman said he decided to write the club before taking legal action, something Crazy Horse's descendants have done in the past.
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Well, Broken Rubber, let me tell you the story of how you got your name...
Let's analyze this first. Is the mascot for this strip club a charicature of an Indian or a horse? If the former, they might have a fair gripe. If the latter, they have no legitimate gripe at all.
It's pretty conceited of the Sioux to think they have exclusive rights to the phrase "Crazy Horse" anyway.
Perhaps John Kerry now has a good reason for a summit with the French. Clearly their advanced sensitivity, utter humanity and emancipated secularism will rise to the occasion and they'll retitle the club Chirac Horsey House.
Or maybe Moulin Rouge?
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I don't guess there's any need to point out that this name offends me...
Damn Human-chauvanists! Couldn't this club have been named after a horse?
And then maybe you can talk to my brother, Two Dogs F...ing
I don't think many French know who Crazy Horse is. If it was a strip club in Sioux Falls, SD, ok, I can see that. But in Paris? Maybe Jacques can introduce a UN resolution for this?
Ummm ... This is a parody, right?
It's been open since 1951...
...and just now they are offended?
I think this just proves this 'political correct' jargon concerning the Sioux and other Indians (and yes, I use that word deliberately) is all a bunch of hogwash.
Well, they use feathered head-dresses, so do you think it's a horse they are referring to in the name, or the Indian?
However, seeing as this is in France, I'd suggest the Sioux forget it and just ignore it. How anyone could take anything seriously the french do is beyond me...
It's even dumber to think they can influence a bar in PARIS. Talk about too much time on your hands....
This is from The Onion - right?
I just figured Neil Young's old band was headlining there...
I live in Virginia. The politically correct term here, according to the tribes themselves is "American Indian."
This is from The Onion - right?
I wouldn't call that the "politically correct" term, so much as it is what is preferred over the P.C. "Native American" which was a pretty stupid label made up by pretty stupid people.
American Indian works just fine for me - it puts America first. ;0)
For a primer on how to refer to Native Americans, please consult HBO's Deadwood when the new season starts.
I guess the name of the dead Indian is so sacred that it's been copyrighted and trademarked?
Crazy Horse, I thought it referred to Mr. Ed? LOL
Ops4 God BLess America!
Point taken. I should've said the "preferred term."
I still am the proud owner of a Crazy Horse malt liquor t0-shirt. My wife wants me to toss, as it is over 12 years old. I tell it's a collector's item Crazy Horse was voted the worst product for the year 1992 by Time magazine.
So, is this what you are referring to, or something else?
Not the U.S. government saying Im trespassing. Or the savage f***ing red man himself,
as a mentally deranged equine, I am insulted by this strip clubs name.
I loved Crazy Horse. Nothing would get you drunker quicker. And it would get you REAL F'ed UP!
My advice to the Sioux is to put on the War Paint, leave the reservation, and take your bows and arrows and horses to France. Ten drunken Sioux on horseback armed with bows and arrows can take Paris in about two hours. Then you can raid the Crazy Horse, scalp all of the American Tourists, grab the nekkid French Dancers and take them back to the reservation. Then, and only then, will people stop messing with the Sioux and other proud Native Americans.
One thing I almost forgot -- Sioux, you'll need to "scalp" the French Dancers also, albeit not on their heads.
Did you notice that he was too cowardly to spell it out?
Who says conservatives don't know how to party?
I'm so confused - I thought "American Indian" referred to the guys running 7-11s who got their Green Cards.
Thye finally figured out that Crazy Horse was braver than any 10 Frenchmen.
I'd be PO'd too if the French were using the name of one of the people I based my Heritage on
Wow a name that is both raciest and sexist.
People seem to forget that after the U.S. Government made a Treaty with the Sioux Nation regarding the Black Hills and environs which was supposed to last "until the river no longer runs", word about gold in the hills spread, and the town of "Deadwood" was, basically, an illegal squatter's camp on what was land belonging to the Indians based on the aforementioned treaty.
Then, those mean bad Indians got ticked and went on the warpath. Why would they do something like that to the poor defenseless harmless well-meaning whites who settled the area? They should have just bent over and taken it I guess.
Hmmmm, it sounds like Crazy Horse may have started a casino.
On the other hand, that's kind of hypocritical to complain about someone using the apparently Indian name Crazy Horse when he uses the name White Woman.
But isn't there a tradition that you name your kids what you first see when they are born?
LOLOLOL!! Best laugh I've had today (that should tell you what kind of a day I've had...) Thanks, f.
first they have to stop the lap dances then "scalp 'em"
See my #2 (and replies) ;)
Must be a veeery rough day there!
No. Every American Indian tribe has slightly different naming traditions. In many, a true name is not given until after a baby is born, not until the child reaches puberty in some cases. In other tribes, babies must be given names from their parents' own family or clan. Traditional American Indian names are often spiritually divined, unique to each individual, and/or related to an accomplishment, rite of passage, dream, or life event.
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Any quote from Al Swearengen will do nicely.
Indeed. How dare they fight back? How dare they expect the U.S. Government to keep its word?
In any case, I find the bigotry these type of threads inevitably reveal very disturbing. If we were talking about black Americans, a good share of posts on FR would be pulled.
So, you admire his hatred, then? Is that what you are saying?
What are you waiting for? Give us one. Be a man.