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Yeltsin Speaks Out In Behalf Of Putin
washingtonpost.com ^ | Friday, September 17, 2004; Page A14 | Peter Finn

Posted on 09/16/2004 8:31:14 PM PDT by Destro

"The authorities must act in a tough and speedy manner" to meet "the bloody challenges thrown at us by the new enemy," Yeltsin said in a rare interview Thursday with the paper Moscow News. "But at the same time, I firmly believe that the measures that the country's leadership will undertake after Beslan will lie within the framework of the democratic freedoms that have become some of Russia's most valuable achievements over the last decade."

Under his plan, Putin would abolish the election of governors in Russia's 89 regions and instead appoint them himself to create what he calls a "single chain of command." He also proposed ending the election of parliament members from individual constituencies and having Russians vote for political parties, which would decide who sits in parliament.

At the news conference, some of the analysts noted what they called democratic failings in the United States and European Union. "We are not going to pass exams set by European and American teachers," said Sergei Markov, director of the Institute for Political Research. "Look at George Bush. An archaic political system has allowed a man who received less votes than his opponent to become the president of the United States."

Putin's plan has "been discussed for a long time by the expert community," said Konstantin Simonov, head of the Center for the Analysis of the Russian Political Situation. "The growing terrorist threat hasn't changed the country's agenda but proved that the course toward the resolute reorganization of the state is right."

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Russia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: chechnya; putin
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1 posted on 09/16/2004 8:31:15 PM PDT by Destro
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To: A. Pole
But American media at first before the release of the interview stated that Yeltsin sounds alarm on 'rollback of rights'?

It seems that the following article's author was right and American news is being manipulated and the truth spun as described in this article:

From: The Chechens' American friends

By the same token, the BBC and other media sources are putting it about that Russian TV played down the Beslan crisis, while only western channels reported live, the implication being that Putin's Russia remains a highly controlled police state. But this view of the Russian media is precisely the opposite of the impression I gained while watching both CNN and Russian TV over the past week: the Russian channels had far better information and images from Beslan than their western competitors. This harshness towards Putin is perhaps explained by the fact that, in the US, the leading group which pleads the Chechen cause is the American Committee for Peace in Chechnya (ACPC). The list of the self-styled "distinguished Americans" who are its members is a rollcall of the most prominent neoconservatives who so enthusastically support the "war on terror".

2 posted on 09/16/2004 8:38:08 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro
Doing by best Yakov Smirnoff impression:

In Russia, Chess Master Gary Kasporov is free to challenge Kremlin without fear of jail....in America Chess Master Bobby Fischer hunted down around world and is going to jail for defying State Dept travel policy.

WHAT A COUNTRY!!!

3 posted on 09/16/2004 8:41:13 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro
Under his plan, Putin would abolish the election of governors in Russia's 89 regions and instead appoint them himself to create what he calls a "single chain of command."

AND, regional legislators can reject Putin's choice. Until they all agree. The legislators are thrilled with their increase in power, but most media sources forget to mention that.

4 posted on 09/16/2004 8:41:13 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: MarMema; kosta50; A. Pole
Almost like France and the UK's politicial system really.

The UK of course has no written constitution and no protection of rights.

Most Americans don't know that and probably would be shocked to hear that London's mayor for example was always appointed by the party in power and not elected by elections until the year 2000! And guess who won that first election for London's mayor? A communist!! 'Red Ken' elected London mayor despite Blair opposition - May 5, 2000

5 posted on 09/16/2004 9:07:55 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro
The UK of course has no written constitution and no protection of rights.

You know it is a much more frightening country, you are correct. The euthanasia movement is very strong there and the handicapped are mostly terrified. I wonder whatever happened to that mentally ill "law" that was supposedly about to be approved? Giving physicians the right to euthanize without consulting even family members, because a person was mentally unable to enjoy life, very subjective.

Not to mention those islamic clerics in London. The Brits are in a bad place right now.

It is all about too much freedom these days, sadly. Putin is trying to make a stand and so is Denmark, and they are getting hit hard for it.

I saw this in the paper at work last weekend and thought it was very interesting.

I see no difference in these losses of freedom and those in Russia. There will be less freedom when terrorists and islamics are invading and killing.

6 posted on 09/16/2004 9:15:21 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: MarMema
Ah yes - English democracy:

Bill to ban fox hunting passed to Lords

A nation that is about to ban hunting and has a House of unelected Lords should not be one to lecture too much on what form Russia's democracy takes, me thinks.

7 posted on 09/16/2004 9:26:45 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: MarMema
Ah yes - English democracy:

Bill to ban fox hunting passed to Lords

A nation that is about to ban hunting and has a House of unelected Lords should not be one to lecture too much on what form Russia's democracy takes, me thinks.

8 posted on 09/16/2004 9:26:45 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro
"The authorities must act in a tough and speedy manner" to meet "the bloody challenges thrown at us by the new enemy," Yeltsin said in a rare interview Thursday with the paper Moscow News. "But at the same time, I firmly believe that the measures that the country's leadership will undertake after Beslan will lie within the framework of the democratic freedoms that have become some of Russia's most valuable achievements over the last decade."

Leave it to the comPost to completely get this wrong.

They think that revoking the ability of the people to directly elect their governors and representatives lies "within the framework of the democratic freedoms that have become some of Russia's most valuable achievements over the last decade".

Let's see, what do the Russian people have today that they didn't have a decade or so ago?

The ability to elect their own representatives!

What is Putin going to do?

Revoke that ability!

Is Yeltsin supporting Putin on this?

Not to anyone who can read English.

9 posted on 09/16/2004 10:21:56 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez ( Even Jane Fonda apologized. Will you, John?)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Those are not the WP's words-it's Yeltsin's words.

Reading comprehension 101 Yeltsin said in a rare interview Thursday with the paper Moscow News. "But at the same time, I firmly believe that the measures that the country's leadership will undertake after Beslan will lie within the framework of the democratic freedoms that have become some of Russia's most valuable achievements over the last decade."

10 posted on 09/16/2004 10:28:09 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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Most Americans don't know that and probably would be shocked to hear that London's mayor for example was always appointed by the party in power and not elected by elections until the year 2000! And guess who won that first election for London's mayor? A communist!!

Of course they don't, Destro. It was never reported on Fox and Retards.

11 posted on 09/16/2004 11:57:19 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50
It was never reported on Fox and Retards.

So many empty minds and so much work to do. Thank you God for FR. The only decent place for news is here.

12 posted on 09/16/2004 11:59:58 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: Destro
A nation that is about to ban hunting and has a House of unelected Lords should not be one to lecture too much on what form Russia's democracy takes, me thinks.

Yeah, and a nation that can't solve its own Northern Ireland -- problem of 40-year duration, and tens of thousands of civilian deaths, should not be giving lectures to Serbs and Russians how to solve theirs'.

13 posted on 09/17/2004 12:00:35 AM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: MarMema
Thank you God for FR. The only decent place for news is here.

Agreed. But you will find decent conservatives on antiwar.com -- and some shocking facts.

14 posted on 09/17/2004 12:02:06 AM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: Destro
In Russia, Chess Master Gary Kasporov is free to challenge Kremlin without fear of jail....in America Chess Master Bobby Fischer hunted down around world and is going to jail for defying State Dept travel policy.

Fischer was not "hunted"--he travelled to Japan where he should have known the authorities were watching. He didn't get in trouble for speaking his mind, he was busted for violating our laws and visiting a hostile country.

And I will remind you of the number of opposition journalists who have been murdered in Russia, and the number of media outlets seized by the Russian gov't. We don't have that here in America.

15 posted on 09/17/2004 12:04:10 AM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: Destro

My, my...brings to mind John Wayne's famous "life is tough..." story.


16 posted on 09/17/2004 12:15:01 AM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: xm177e2
We don't have that here in America.

Because we don't have the leftovers of Yeltsin's mafia circus.

17 posted on 09/17/2004 12:50:20 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: Luis Gonzalez
The ability to elect their own representatives! What is Putin going to do? Revoke that ability!

They will still elect the local legislatures, and representatives to the Duma through the party lists, and the President.

Poland has the central nomination of the local executives (wojewodas[voyevodas]), proportional party list voting etc ... Are you saying that Poland is anti-democratic?

When De Gaulle created Fifth Republic with strong presidency, did it make France a tyranny? No, but he became so popular that his followers still make the strongest political party.

18 posted on 09/17/2004 5:02:59 AM PDT by A. Pole (Madeleine Albright:"We are the indispensable nation. We stand tall. We see further into the future.")
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To: xm177e2

Fisher violated a UN ban that the State Dept was enforcing. Since when is the UN the law of our land? And what kind of free nation are we where we are banned from travelling as we please?


19 posted on 09/17/2004 6:16:52 AM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: xm177e2

Oh - govt owned media outlets like say the BBC is? Ireland has had her fair share of murdered journalists as well - the Russian cases like those of most journalist deaths are mob related not Putin related.


20 posted on 09/17/2004 6:18:28 AM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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