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Free Martha !...or not! ***Live Thread*** on Martha's fate (Five Months)
News channels ^ | July 16, 2004

Posted on 07/16/2004 7:23:49 AM PDT by TomGuy

Free Martha!!!!!....or Not!

Court decision any moment.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: marthastewart
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To: RedBloodedAmerican

I don't think she should have gone free at all. I think the sentence was appropriate.


161 posted on 07/16/2004 8:31:52 AM PDT by Solson ("Ugly knows ugly though." - WorkingClassFilth)
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To: Pest
One less vote for Kerry!

I'm sure the 'RAT Cemetery Voters will make it up...w/ more than 2+ million dead voters.

162 posted on 07/16/2004 8:36:46 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :)
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To: Solson
If her name was Martha Jones and she was a mid-management nothing she would have never been charged.

The justice department has prosecuted 800 cases of corporate corruption in the last four years.

So in reality, if her name was Martha Jones, she WOULD have been prosecuted.

It just would not make the headlines.

163 posted on 07/16/2004 8:37:56 AM PDT by 11th Earl of Mar
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To: RedBloodedAmerican

OMG !!


164 posted on 07/16/2004 8:42:33 AM PDT by traumer
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To: q_an_a
You seem to forget that Martha Stewart was a stock broker and cannot plead ignorance to the law.

I believe that was the mitigating factor in sending her to jail rather than probation.

Her greed cost her many millions and it cannot be characterized as anything other than greed. She brought down those young brokers with her by expecting them to go along with her deception.

I won't even go into the thought process of Sam Waksal or the unconsciounable behaviour of the FDA in not working to see that this drug got ON the market to save lives, rather than doing all in their power to keep the drug off the market.

165 posted on 07/16/2004 8:45:01 AM PDT by OldFriend (IF YOU CAN READ THIS, THANK A TEACHER.......AND SINCE IT'S IN ENGLISH, THANK A SOLDIER)
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To: Solson

Martha was not tried for insider trading, she was tried for lying to the FBI.


166 posted on 07/16/2004 8:46:10 AM PDT by OldFriend (IF YOU CAN READ THIS, THANK A TEACHER.......AND SINCE IT'S IN ENGLISH, THANK A SOLDIER)
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To: jimbo123
"Her appeals lawyer is a Clinton hack:"

It was really creepy the way he kept sticking his tongue out. I kept thinking this guy must be a freak.


167 posted on 07/16/2004 8:50:35 AM PDT by DocRock
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To: DocRock

Yuck!


168 posted on 07/16/2004 8:52:07 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: OldFriend

she was tried for both. She was convicted of lying and obstruction.


169 posted on 07/16/2004 8:56:43 AM PDT by Solson ("Ugly knows ugly though." - WorkingClassFilth)
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To: kenth

If I'm reading the posts of the multiple threads corrrectly, she wasn't even charged with insider trading, IIRC.

Maybe the case against her wasn't strong enough, and they took the "lying to the FBI is a federal crime" as what they could definitely get a conviction from a judge and jury.

I wish there was a good, solid and concise timeline summary of what actually happened.


170 posted on 07/16/2004 8:59:36 AM PDT by 7.62 x 51mm (• Veni • Vidi • Vino •)
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To: Solson; OldFriend

Nevermind. You are right.


171 posted on 07/16/2004 9:03:19 AM PDT by Solson ("Ugly knows ugly though." - WorkingClassFilth)
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To: 7.62 x 51mm
Interesting read can be found at http://www.seclaw.com/docs/marthastewartindictmentseccivil0603
172 posted on 07/16/2004 9:05:24 AM PDT by Solson ("Ugly knows ugly though." - WorkingClassFilth)
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To: doug from upland
Hey Doug!

I live in the same mess you do. I am 10 mins. from Reagans' library in Simi, the way I drive my truck:) Still in L.A. county, just an actual 300 feet from the border:)

I miss you on the radio! Can't you break into Laura Ingraham's show? I know she likes to talk a lot:)

Bob

173 posted on 07/16/2004 9:19:16 AM PDT by BobS
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To: TomGuy

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174 posted on 07/16/2004 9:20:18 AM PDT by doug from upland (Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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To: BobS

Hi, Bob. Hope to see you at the Reagan Libray field trip. Actually, I've called Hugh Hewitt 3-4 times in the last few weeks. I've been on hold for Laura 3 times in the couple weeks but haven't gotten on the air.


175 posted on 07/16/2004 9:22:06 AM PDT by doug from upland (Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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To: RedBloodedAmerican; OldFriend; Badeye; cpprfld
I did not read every page of the trial nor did I much care about every detail-Martha got word from her broker to sell- this was not some insider deal hatched over years nor did she cause the person who wanted to buy the stock to go broke-the stock is at $80 today.

If your broker can't tell you that the stock is being sold by big holders what is the point of having a broker?

Her investors got hurt not because she did not think she was innocent but because stock in companies run by the brains of the company always get hurt if the "leader" makes any type of false move- including getting sick. People who buy a one product company can't claim they did not bet on HER and took that risk.

176 posted on 07/16/2004 9:26:48 AM PDT by q_an_a
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To: Badeye

Thanks for this great summation for those who love crooks on Free Republic:

"Martha Stewart was a stockbroker in the late 1960's and early 1970's. From what I can tell, she did something verging on unethical, and that career imploded. She was eventually forced to selling pies at an open air market, and that was the beginning of the Martha Stewart everybody now knows.

While I consider myself a Conservative, I'm also a business owner. Martha Stewart didn't need "advice from her stockbroker" having been one herself. She knew what she was doing was wrong when she did it. She was trained in the field in question.

Sorry, Martha "broke the faith" all CEO's are supposed to abide by, and is now going to jail.

I'm satisfied with the sentence, just as I was satisfied years ago when Leona Helmsley went to prison.

Funny how the "Martha Supporters" never utter a word about the small stockholders that have lost because of her intentional acts of deception.

Guess if you can arrange flowers well, you get a pass, huh?

She betrayed the NYSE Board of Directors. She betrayed every employee of Omniliving. She betrayed thousands of investors. She betrayed her own fans, of which you are one.

Sorry, she got off light given the money lost by others, not herself. Then again, this whole thing began when she tried to avoid a relatively minor loss.

Her greed is no different than Ken Lay's, or Ebbers, or any of the others. The only difference in the end was the dollar amounts as they relate to her personal loss.

Pox on all their houses. They broke the faith.


177 posted on 07/16/2004 9:32:42 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (We have Freeperized Whoopi, Glover, Maher,?. Hey Follywood perverts, who is next?!)
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To: Grampa Dave
Your #177

Dittos

178 posted on 07/16/2004 9:34:41 AM PDT by OldFriend (IF YOU CAN READ THIS, THANK A TEACHER.......AND SINCE IT'S IN ENGLISH, THANK A SOLDIER)
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To: q_an_a

On another note...KMart is having a sale on Martha Stewart bed linens.


179 posted on 07/16/2004 9:35:09 AM PDT by Lobbyist
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To: Grampa Dave

"Thanks for this great summation for those who love crooks on Free Republic: ....."

You are welcome. I'm very tired of reading about "Poor Martha". Poor Martha was a liar, a crook, and a thief, with a huge pile of arrogance sprinkled oh so delicately on top, like powdered sugar on one of her desert concoctions.

Can't wait to see her do the perp walk.


180 posted on 07/16/2004 9:40:26 AM PDT by Badeye ("The day you stop learning, is the day you begin dying")
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